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My eldest holiday with the lads....

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  • krlyr
    krlyr Posts: 5,993 Forumite
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    edited 20 March 2012 at 11:58AM
    They've all grouped together to save money - if your son wanted to go on his own then it probably would have cost him a fair bit more than he's paid. They're just extending this "split the cost" saving to include this other guy.
    I think it's a bit unfair that they didn't get everyone's agreement on it and if your son feels that put out, maybe he can suggest they split the £150 amongst the 8 of them but I imagine this will probably cause a fair bit of resentment and spoilt the holiday.
    Like newcook says - if the 8th personsaid "Fine, I'll pay for the room I'm sharing with the 9th bloke", would the other 7 people in that room feel happy having to fork out extra for their room? Or how would you son have felt if they'd only had rooms that slept 6 and they said to your son and another friend that they had to bear the brunt of the cost of a 2-person room, instead of splitting it 8 ways?
  • DylanO
    DylanO Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    victory wrote: »
    Maybe it is just me being a protective mum but there were a group of 8 of them in 2 self catering flats that has room for 2 one side 2 the other and paid the deposit to go in June, all sorted, the outstanding balance is due this thursday, son has been paying a bit each week from his pay packet....

    Word has got out of the impending hol and another lad wants to join, if he joins he has to have a seperate room that sleeps two as the one they have already booked and paying for sleeps 8...

    To get this lad the flat it will cost each person going another £19 to make up the the cost of the flat and the new kid has to pay also, don't get why the others should pay for him to come? Don't understand why they should incur the costs, now to keep the kid company one of the other 8 lads is going to share his room so surely them two should cut the costs?

    I guess not because the other lad has already paid for his accomodation with the group...

    My son is a bit put out about this and rightly so but the others seem to agree they should pay for him to come so son feels voiceless and will probably to keep the peace end up paying, not a lot of money but it is to him (4 hours wages) and it is the why should he have to?

    Why isn't your son mature enough to deal with this himself? Why aren't you mature enough to give advice without posting the entire story on the internet?
  • shiny76
    shiny76 Posts: 548 Forumite
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    In these situations it often helps to put things into perspective if you were to imagine being in the other party's shoes. How would your son have felt if he belatedly found out a group of mates were going away without him and weren't willing to sacrifice £20 to include him (as if he'd be invited from the start)?

    Would your son not have agreed to go if he'd known it was going to cost him another £20? Chances are they'll be spending that in a couple of hours on a night out!
  • spadoosh
    spadoosh Posts: 8,732 Forumite
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    shiny76 wrote: »
    Chances are they'll be spending that in a couple of hours on a night out!


    1 drink! Its called a flaming lamboghini. You finish it, its free. Never managed to polish off a bottle of sambuca and bottle of baileys in one drink though, boy did that curdle! Still £20 for 1 drink beats £50+ for the night

    Shouldve noticed something wasnt right when sirens went off in the bar when i ordered it.

    You can get a standard one though with just a shot of each in.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    victory wrote: »
    I asked him if he knew him and he said he did, he did not hang around with him but knew him and he had heard about it and asked to come, I think some of this is a bit of resentment because it happened whilst son was at work and he was being asked and texted about it but never answered so by the time they did get hold of son they had pretty much sorted it and agreed to get him another flat and pay thedifference between them all so son had very little say....

    Perhaps, if he'd bothered to answer, he could have had some say at the time?

    I agree with the others that it's really no concern of yours and you shouldn't be encouraging him to whinge about something so insignificant.
  • soccermom
    soccermom Posts: 294 Forumite
    I'm a little surprised that this is even an issue especially for £19. My son went on his first holiday to Magaluf last year with his mates :eek: and are going back this year and they are all such close friends that they wouldn't have even thought twice about it paying out the extra for another mate to come.

    My son broke his leg last year and they were ferrying him about everywhere in their cars and helping him to get around but my lad has returned this with whatever he can, help with maths, having parties at our house :D

    Have your sons mates never helped him out in anyway if so surely £19 isn't going to break the bank.

    Isn't that what having your friends is all about.

    I wonder if they know he feels like this they may get a surprise if they knew especially as all them thought it was a good idea.
  • jellyhead
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    I assume that if he had been replying to the messages and hadn't been at work that he'd have been the only one who didn't think splitting the extra cost was a good idea, so he'd have been outvoted anyway.
    It's arranged now - unless your son wants to drop out and let the other kid pay him back for his room :D

    My teenager doesn't get much pocket money, so £19 would seem like a lot to him but he wouldn't mind paying it, the more the merrier and they all help each other out when they're loafing around town etc.

    To you £19 is the cost of ordering a pizza if he has mates round. If he really can't afford it then you could pay it for him.
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  • jellyhead
    jellyhead Posts: 21,555 Forumite
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    I'm surprised so many people are saying it's only £19 and should be an issue ... if it had been a thread about how a family meal had cost £19 more than expected because everyone else insisted in splitting the bill I bet the responses would be different.
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  • spike241
    spike241 Posts: 371 Forumite
    It's not a lot of money but the way it comes across (which might not be how it is) is that some guy the son isn't really friends with has invited himself on their holiday and they're having to pay the extra costs.
    I know I'd be annoyed if that was me but he doesn't really have any other choice than to pay it.

    The OP did say that her son was at work when he got the texts. I don't know what he does but a lot of places won't even let you keep your phone on you while you're working.

    EDIT: I did have the meal thread in mind when I read this Jellyhead :)
  • lazer
    lazer Posts: 3,402 Forumite
    We had an issue simialr to this a few years back

    3 of us we going to Italy and ahd the flights booked, a 4th girl then decided she was coming with us and then going to meet her b/f and going on travelling with him instead of flying back home. So we then booked all the accommodation.
    We were travelling around and she wasn;t going to go to Venice with us and would leave us after Verona. It then transpired that she was actually leaving Verona a day earlier than us.

    She then insisted she wasn't paying for the hotel room for that night, and that her share of the 2nd night should be spilt between the other 3 of us since she wasn't using it, and was paying for a hotel elsewhere (I think we were only spending 2 nights in that hotel, and we had booked a nice expensive hotel for that night as i was the last part of the holiday for all us together.)

    Anyway - I objected, because of a number of reasons:

    1) She decided to come on our holiday and told us she would leave us after Verona, so the mistake in the booking was her error, so she should at least have some responsibilty.

    2) It would have been much cheaper for us to book a triple room for the 2 nights, than to pay her share of the 4 person room as well for the 2nd night.(Can't remember the logistics). She could have either left us at the previous hotel or paid for a single room for that night

    3) She annoyed the hell out of me the whole holiday anyway, and was glad when she was leaving us!

    In the end, we compromised, and the extra cost was spilt between all 4 of us, so she had a least some responsibility for it. (I still wasn't happy but at least it was better than her just walking away!).
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