Regional Pay

bingo_bango

I see no-one has produced figures for the comparison between public and private, and NI / GB, only rhetoric and opinion.

I have provided links (below) to the most recent information, but be warned, these reports are skewed in their presentation (which they will freely admit to) because of the complexity of the study group. Also, you need to take the findings of the whole of a report to have a balanced view of the situation, and then read across the differences between the findings of the separate reports to have anything approaching a complete picture of the situation. Too often the media will seize on a headline figure from the report without presenting the background information. If that was acceptable, then those producing the reports would do the same.

Also bear in mind that these are statistical analyses only, and do not delve into the factors which affect disparity. They are therefore necessarily stark in their output. This is also by no means a definitive list. There is a whole lot more information out there for those who want to have an informed opinion.

http://www.dfpni.gov.uk/2010-11-pay-and-workforce-technical-annex.pdf

http://www.detini.gov.uk/northern_ireland_ashe_2011_bulletin.pdf

travel12

Indo77 wrote: »

This has always been a tactic by the Tories and one that they are masters of - to create deep anger among the working classes with eachother (dole chasers, public vs private sector etc). If the 50% tax rate is abolished it will make almost no difference since anyone who earns huge amounts of cash have always found ways to avoid paying this tax rate. Do you really think a premiere league footballer on £250,000 a week is paying 50% tax?

It's the sheep like us who fund everything while the Tories and their rich banker mates pay next to nothing into the public purse. But of course we are too busy arguing among ourselves while our Etonian overlords laugh at us. You would think at the last election that the Tories got a landslide majority the way they are now governing. People need to wake up to what is actually happening. We are all being screwed at the expense of the few, Daily Mail readers take note.

Indo77 your spot on! The working class like to !!!!! at one another,sink one another and stick the knife in when they can to one another While those like the Tories like to run off with the lolly, but the bit about the Daily Mail I'm not to sure of. After all I buy it 6 days a week. The working class are taking home less money every week.Does any one on here really think Sammy I'm in the money Wilson (and any one who works on the Hill ) cares what you have to eat on the table? Any one ever phone up the Hill and ask for a wee bit of help for an OAP? What about the great health service and wheel clamping outside the cancer units at Antrim Hospital! (seen this happening myself) at the end of the day those in goverment don't and will not give a dam how hard you have to suffer as long as they keep on rolling it in to their own very deep pockets!!!!

qwert_yuiop

one2escape wrote: »

Regional pay is just a backdoor to reduce the block grant. So you want the block grant cut?

The sooner the better. We'll find our own level, whatever that is, just like Iceland. I'd like to see us thrive on our own efforts. No one owes us a living, and if we can't make it on our own, we don't deserve to.

steveymp

Regional pay won't make a difference in the short term, anyone employed at present by the govt will only have a pay freeze until their comparable job in the private sector comes up to equivalent pay (God knows who decides what a comparable job will be ?)

I really wish we had this years ago when similar jobs in the private sector where paid 50% more than I got

Another time and money wasting exercise by the Govt:(

saverbuyer

I'd be interest to know how you think this will "waste" money Steveymp?

NAR

saverbuyer wrote: »

I'd be interest to know how you think this will "waste" money Steveymp?

Well one area is IT, where staff in the private sector receive considerably higher salaries than those in the public sector. We have "lost" several members of staff to Microsoft in the last 12 months and I can't see this trend reversing any time soon.

saverbuyer

NAR wrote: »

Well one area is IT, where staff in the private sector receive considerably higher salaries than those in the public sector. We have "lost" several members of staff to Microsoft in the last 12 months and I can't see this trend reversing any time soon.

I don't know what you're getting at here. Where's the waste?

Microsoft's centre here is in Dublin. It's the biggest software firm in the world. Not really the same labour market. You aren't going to be competing (not with in IT anyway) for the same people.

qwert_yuiop

NAR wrote: »

Well one area is IT, where staff in the private sector receive considerably higher salaries than those in the public sector. We have "lost" several members of staff to Microsoft in the last 12 months and I can't see this trend reversing any time soon.

Well why not move, NAR? What's keeping you in an underpaid job?

NAR

qwert_yuiop wrote: »

Well why not move, NAR? What's keeping you in an underpaid job?

Cos I get my goldplated pension next year! :beer: _party_ :dance: :j Can you tell I'm happy?

NAR

saverbuyer wrote: »

I don't know what you're getting at here. Where's the waste?

Under Regional Pay the public sector IT workforce will all require a rise, simples.

Microsoft's centre here is in Dublin. It's the biggest software firm in the world. Not really the same labour market. You aren't going to be competing (not with in IT anyway) for the same people.

They also have a considerable NI workforce. Microsoft are much more than a software firm and it is the same people - otherwise why are they leaving us? Not exactly rocket science.