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Osborne plans lower public sector salaries outside of the south

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  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    olly300 wrote: »
    I know from the people I've worked with in the Berkshire area they live close to poor areas and have to fight to get their kids into good secondary schools. By "good" I mean there are enough parents in the school who give a damn about their kids' education.
    Only possible where such schools exist. Where there aren't enough middle-class families, there are no such schools.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • olly300 wrote: »
    I don't know about the pay as I've not asked the private sector teachers I know but I agree with the difference in conditions.

    (The state sector ones are very open about their pay and allowances. )



    Oddly that due to high unemployment they haven't had a problem getting new recruits, except in the predicted subject areas where there is a shortage of graduates anyway.

    I am well aware they have a problem keeping people in the profession due to the number of ex-teachers I know.

    I know having been for a job interview in a private school recently - free use of their sports/gym/pool too for me and the whole family. Free lunch every day too. Sadly didn't get the job but it is probably a good outcome for my waistline :-)

    It is true that there is oversupply in some subjects at the moment, but the problem is that experienced teachers are leaving and the new ones often leave the profession. The oversupply won't last past the end of the recession, particularly in Science, maths, languages.

    Ironically most of the new 'academy' schools also pay more than the national pay scale for teachers too...

    Being open about pay in the public sector is a good thing in my view - anyone can work out what my salary is as an experienced teacher. Everyone entering the profession knows what they will be able to earn.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Joe_Bloggs wrote: »
    The BBC have gone / are nearly gone to Salford.
    The indispensable bits are staying in London. The Salford bits are ripe for hiving off to independent companies now. There won't be much of the BBC in Salford in 5 years.

    This will become a pattern. Government departments already outside London will be privatised and others will follow.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    We've got to loose our island mentality in order to compete going forward.
    We can't compete going forward.

    Competition was great when we usually won. It won't be so much fun when we usually don't.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Either way it is going to be slaughter for the coalition at the next election.
    William Hill's have a book on the next LibDem leader. I think it's a case of picking the one who will still have a seat.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    House prices in the North are approximately half what they are in the South. Paying identical wages makes no sense & is in fact massively unfair to the public sector workers in the South.

    Nevertheless expect various Union Leaders to make as much political hay as possible from this. Perhaps they don't care about their southern members?

    Or perhaps they just enjoy claiming that everything the coalition does is some form of evil.
  • hallmark
    hallmark Posts: 1,475 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Either way it is going to be slaughter for the coalition at the next election.

    Really? Every single bookmaker in Britain disagrees with you, they all have the Conservatives as favourites:

    http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/next-uk-general-election/most-seats


    Since you're so sure of yourself this is an excellent chance for you to put your money where your mouth is. Of course, mouthing off on a bulletin board is one thing, actually backing it up is another.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    Fella wrote: »
    House prices in the North are approximately half what they are in the South. Paying identical wages makes no sense & is in fact massively unfair to the public sector workers in the South.

    Nevertheless expect various Union Leaders to make as much political hay as possible from this. Perhaps they don't care about their southern members?
    Union leaders are now fighting two campaigns at once - pension reform and regional pay. They definitely can't win both.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

    (If a link I give opens pop ups I won't know I don't use windows)
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    Fella wrote: »
    House prices in the North are approximately half what they are in the South.
    That's because nobody wants to live there.
    Fella wrote: »
    Paying identical wages makes no sense & is in fact massively unfair to the public sector workers in the South.
    If they want to move north and take advantage of the cheap houses, nobody's stopping them.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • Joe_Bloggs
    Joe_Bloggs Posts: 4,535 Forumite
    Prqdef said :-
    The indispensable bits are staying in London. The Salford bits are ripe for hiving off to independent companies now. There won't be much of the BBC in Salford in 5 years.

    The Blue Peter Garden is surely above privatisation considerations.

    Imagine what could be the next step. The BBC only available via SKY.

    J_B.
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