Cleanse, Tone and Moisturise!

SmileyHappyBeing

vik6525 wrote:

I take my eye make up off with baby oil, cleanse with pears soap, and use superdrugs own brightening moisturiser... and ive got lovely skin!!! (apart from the odd zit at certain times of the month, which i blitz with tea tree oil...)

Hi vik,

you shouldnt really use oil on your eyes as it can give you milia , its too heavy for the eye area x

glamgoldchic

On Woman's Hour they said that all moisturisers do basically the same. It was recommended to get Retanoic acid tablets on prescription to prevent aging - the only thing that has been PROVEN to work.

They also recommended a splash of cold water to tone the skin.

vik6525

SmileyHappyBeing wrote:

Hi vik,

you shouldnt really use oil on your eyes as it can give you milia , its too heavy for the eye area x

whats milia? im worried now....

SmileyHappyBeing

vik6525 wrote:

whats milia? im worried now....

Lol, no need to be worried , its those white little lumps that come up under your eye, heres some info

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Milia[/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What’s with those annoying little white heads that just never seem to come to the surface and go away? What is that thick, white stuff that comes out when you finally get so frustrated you pick and poke and finally pop the bump? Milia can be the bane of your existence, particularly when they continue to form despite your best efforts at keeping your skin “clean”. Unfortunately, cleanliness isn’t problem. The skin’s ability to naturally exfoliate is.

Milia are deep seeded white bumps that form when skin cells become trapped rather than exfoliate naturally. The trapped cells become walled off into tiny cysts that appear like white beads below the surface of the skin. Milia can occur on the skin or even on mucous membranes such as the inner surface of the cheek or the vermillion border of the lips.

As the surface is worn away, the tiny cyst may resolve on its own. Far too often, though, intervention to remove the cyst may offer more rapid resolution.

Why Me?

Milia form for a variety of reasons. Some you can fix, others aren’t so easily dealt with. But you need to scrutinize your skin care routine whenever milia make their appearance. Although some people naturally make milia, and I certainly expect everyone to have an occasional bump at one time or another, milia are often the result of a problem that has affected the skin’s surface.

• Heavy Skin Care Products
  
  No doubt the most common reason milia form is from smothering your skin with heavy skin care products or hair care items. Comedogenic creams and lotions may prevent the sloughing of dead epidermal skin cells. Hidden problem products include make-up removers not labeled oil-free or non-comedogenic, hair spray, hair mousse and gel, heavy sunscreens and some moisturizers. The eyelids are very thin and more likely to experience problems with milia due to cosmetics. Re-evaluate your eye make-up and eyelid make-up remover if you are finding this to be a concern.
  
  Certain lipsticks, lip balms and products meant to help with chapped lips may be the cause of little white pearly milia developing around the lipstick edge (aka vermillion border) of the lips. Again, if you see these forming, take a good look at the ingredients on the label.

Im a trained beauticain (though not working as one for the last cpl of years) and you really shouldnt use baby oil etc around your eyes,

Hth
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frivolous_fay

SmileyHappyBeing wrote: »

Lol, no need to be worried , its those white little lumps that come up under your eye, heres some info

Can you get those on your lips, too? I've had permanent whiteheads on the top of my upper lip for going on 15 years - barely noticable and not painful, but just a bit odd.

SmileyHappyBeing

frivolous_fay wrote: »

Can you get those on your lips, too? I've had permanent whiteheads on the top of my upper lip for going on 15 years - barely noticable and not painful, but just a bit odd.[/quote

[SIZE=+1]What Are Those Little White Bumps?[/SIZE]

Little hard, white bumps. They might appear under your eyes, around your lips, on your cheeks or pretty much anywhere else on your face you can think of. They don’t seem to get any bigger. They don’t hurt, itch or turn red. They are simply there.

What are they? Chances are they are milia — oil (sebum) from your skin that has hardened and become trapped under a layer of dead skin cells. If you were to remove the skin covering it, the hardened sebum would appear to be a small, hard ball.

The good news is that in many cases they can be prevented and sometimes dealt with without seeing a dermatologist or skilled esthetician. Under no circumstances, however (remember last week’s “3 Skin No-No’s”), should you pick at them to get them to go away. Although the temptation is huge, resist! The danger of infection and scarring is too great.

[FONT=Arial, helvetica]The most likely causes of milia are:[/FONT]

[*]Heavy Moisturizers. Thick, heavy moisturizers that do not allow your skin to breathe are often the culprit. If your skin is extremely dry and dehydrated, there’s nothing wrong with using an emollient rich moisturizer but the rest of your skincare routine must prepare your skin for this product. (More on that later.) If you’re finding milia along your hair line, check the ingredients of your haircare products.


[*]Lip Balms. If your lips are perennially chapped and you are finding milia around your lips, you might want to rethink the lip balm you are using. It might be sealing in oil and dead skin cells along with the moisture.


[*]The Sun. What would one of my skincare newsletters be without mention of the sun! Mature skin that has seen a lot of sun will often become thickened as a result of sun damage. This makes it more challenging for your skin to exfoliate naturally and possibly undermines the effectiveness of any exfoliating product you are using. Oil gets trapped and milia form.There are other reasons (e.g., genetics and trauma to the skin) that can account for the formation of milia on occasion but the above reasons are most prevalent.

[FONT=Arial, helvetica]So, what can you do?[/FONT]

[*]Exfoliate, exfoliate, exfoliate. That said, don’t go overboard and use every conceivable method of exfoliation to rid your skin of them. Regular, gentle (emphasis on “gentle”) exfoliation works just fine!


[*]Facial Scrubs. Keep a gentle (no fruit pits or nuts as exfoliating ingredients) in your shower. Once or twice a week, gently massage your skin with the scrub. Harder is not better (in fact it’s worse)! Regular exfoliation keeps the dead skin cells from adhering to your skin and forming a barrier that inhibits the natural flow of oil. It has the added advantage of giving your skin a softness and glow as you uncover fresh, healthy skin.


[*]Chemical home exfoliation. This sounds scarier than it is. It’s actually very routine and simple. Use a moisturizer that contains alpha- or beta-hydroxy acids. They help to chemically exfoliate your skin thereby keeping it soft and smooth and free from dead skin cells. AHA’s, in particular, are very trendy right now and are in nearly every product (or so it seems) these days. In order to exfoliate the skin, the percentage of AHA’s or BHA’s must be high enough to affect the skin over time. To be sure you are getting what you pay for, get these particular products from a skincare professional or be sure you do your research so you aren’t wasting your money.There are other things you can do such as a series of glycolic peels with your esthetician, but for home care, give these suggestions a try. Milia are stubborn. They won’t go away overnight. With regular exfoliation, you can slowly whittle away at the top layer of skin with the goal of naturally uncovering and releasing the milia. If not, see your dermatologist or talk to your esthetician about treatment options


hope this helps...

floyd

I have very irritable allergic skin and have been using Elemis for 5 years now and wouldn't use anything else. Its odd how people can react so differently to products, my sister can't use Elemis as she always reacts to it so she uses Prescriptives. I tried Clinique which felt like acid and other more 'botanic' brands but they just felt like napalm on my skin. Decleor is very good as well but can be exceptionally pricey

thisuseridistakenagain

I use nivea cream (69p) and clense with a wet microfibre cloth. I've got really dry skin so just water on the cloth is enough and doesnt strip any oils. Microfibre is beter than you would think at geting rid of make up, even that waxy face paint stuff my little cousin got put on at a fun fare came off with one wipe and didnt stain the cloth. That was bits of glitter too. And it always does my waterpreof mascara in one wipe too.

I really hate the idea of spending money on branded skincare,I even avoid Boots, you might think you are getting good value because of the advantage points but for example if you buy toothpaste in boots for £1.20 you get 4pence worth of points whereas in spuerdrug or wilkinsons it would have only cost 69p in the first place.

lab-lover

How often should i exfoliate my face? I have a few of these milia spots, one of them in my eyelid.
I have started using St Ives apri scrub once a week, i am nearly 40, should i do it more? Anybody know?

Uniscots97

SmileyHappyBeing wrote: »

frivolous_fay wrote: »

Can you get those on your lips, too? I've had permanent whiteheads on the top of my upper lip for going on 15 years - barely noticable and not painful, but just a bit odd.[/quote

[SIZE=+1]What Are Those Little White Bumps?[/SIZE]

Little hard, white bumps. They might appear under your eyes, around your lips, on your cheeks or pretty much anywhere else on your face you can think of. They don’t seem to get any bigger. They don’t hurt, itch or turn red. They are simply there.

What are they? Chances are they are milia — oil (sebum) from your skin that has hardened and become trapped under a layer of dead skin cells. If you were to remove the skin covering it, the hardened sebum would appear to be a small, hard ball.

The good news is that in many cases they can be prevented and sometimes dealt with without seeing a dermatologist or skilled esthetician. Under no circumstances, however (remember last week’s “3 Skin No-No’s”), should you pick at them to get them to go away. Although the temptation is huge, resist! The danger of infection and scarring is too great.

[FONT=Arial, helvetica]The most likely causes of milia are:[/FONT]

[*]Heavy Moisturizers. Thick, heavy moisturizers that do not allow your skin to breathe are often the culprit. If your skin is extremely dry and dehydrated, there’s nothing wrong with using an emollient rich moisturizer but the rest of your skincare routine must prepare your skin for this product. (More on that later.) If you’re finding milia along your hair line, check the ingredients of your haircare products.


[*]Lip Balms. If your lips are perennially chapped and you are finding milia around your lips, you might want to rethink the lip balm you are using. It might be sealing in oil and dead skin cells along with the moisture.


[*]The Sun. What would one of my skincare newsletters be without mention of the sun! Mature skin that has seen a lot of sun will often become thickened as a result of sun damage. This makes it more challenging for your skin to exfoliate naturally and possibly undermines the effectiveness of any exfoliating product you are using. Oil gets trapped and milia form.There are other reasons (e.g., genetics and trauma to the skin) that can account for the formation of milia on occasion but the above reasons are most prevalent.

[FONT=Arial, helvetica]So, what can you do?[/FONT]

[*]Exfoliate, exfoliate, exfoliate. That said, don’t go overboard and use every conceivable method of exfoliation to rid your skin of them. Regular, gentle (emphasis on “gentle”) exfoliation works just fine!


[*]Facial Scrubs. Keep a gentle (no fruit pits or nuts as exfoliating ingredients) in your shower. Once or twice a week, gently massage your skin with the scrub. Harder is not better (in fact it’s worse)! Regular exfoliation keeps the dead skin cells from adhering to your skin and forming a barrier that inhibits the natural flow of oil. It has the added advantage of giving your skin a softness and glow as you uncover fresh, healthy skin.


[*]Chemical home exfoliation. This sounds scarier than it is. It’s actually very routine and simple. Use a moisturizer that contains alpha- or beta-hydroxy acids. They help to chemically exfoliate your skin thereby keeping it soft and smooth and free from dead skin cells. AHA’s, in particular, are very trendy right now and are in nearly every product (or so it seems) these days. In order to exfoliate the skin, the percentage of AHA’s or BHA’s must be high enough to affect the skin over time. To be sure you are getting what you pay for, get these particular products from a skincare professional or be sure you do your research so you aren’t wasting your money.There are other things you can do such as a series of glycolic peels with your esthetician, but for home care, give these suggestions a try. Milia are stubborn. They won’t go away overnight. With regular exfoliation, you can slowly whittle away at the top layer of skin with the goal of naturally uncovering and releasing the milia. If not, see your dermatologist or talk to your esthetician about treatment options


hope this helps...

Thanks for this. I'm the same as another poster, I have a few of these on my upper lip and did wonder what they were. My doctor told me they were fat deposits, nice eh? How best would you treat the lip area? I have noticed since I changed from Chanel lipstick to Avon they are much better.