Ar rant (with apologies) - driving in snow.

cyclonebri1

The only thing about snow driving that escapes me is why we have rants like this on here.

FACT

The average British driver does not have a clue how to drive in snowy conditions :eek:

Same driver does not have a clue how to behave in the same conditions. ie give way to uphill or downhill oncoming dependant on the circumstances.:eek:

Same average driver always considers him/herself to be outside that group :eek:

Same driver is always the one that rants on here. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Sad, but too dam true, :A:A:A

mikey72

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

............The average British driver does not have a clue how to drive in snowy conditions :eek:............

Snow tyres working fine, but it was a rush to get out today before the snow melted. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

real1314

mikey72 wrote: »

Indeed I do, and it's not stopping on the sliproad.

Crabman wrote: »

Solution: drive on the hard shoulder in order to prevent an accident. :cool:

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows you use the hard shoulder to merge with lane 1 if it isn't possible to merge from the slip road.

Those with substantially more than 2 brain cells have read and understood the highway code:-

"259 Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway.
You should:

give priority to traffic already on the motorway

check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane

not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder

stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway

remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking"

"264 You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs."

There's lots of things you "can" do, so long as you don't get caught by the plod. You may as well argue that you would run over chevrons & solid white lines at junctions.

The correct thing is to wait, according to the highway code and the law.

You've already seen this page mikey, perhaps this time you should try reading all of it, rather than just picking the one bit that suited you?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069862?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=highwaycode_motorways

:cool:

cyclonebri1

That's a deep reply, but at it's most innocent, ask the average British motorist what a snow tyre is and you'll get MY rant, :rotfl:

mikey72

real1314 wrote: »

Those with substantially more than 2 brain cells have read and understood the highway code:-

"259 Joining the motorway. When you join the motorway you will normally approach it from a road on the left (a slip road) or from an adjoining motorway.
You should:

give priority to traffic already on the motorway

check the traffic on the motorway and match your speed to fit safely into the traffic flow in the left-hand lane

not cross solid white lines that separate lanes or use the hard shoulder

stay on the slip road if it continues as an extra lane on the motorway

remain in the left-hand lane long enough to adjust to the speed of traffic before considering overtaking"

"264 You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs."

There's lots of things you "can" do, so long as you don't get caught by the plod. You may as well argue that you would run over chevrons & solid white lines at junctions.

The correct thing is to wait, according to the highway code and the law.

You've already seen this page mikey, perhaps this time you should try reading all of it, rather than just picking the one bit that suited you?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069862?CID=TAT&PLA=url_mon&CRE=highwaycode_motorways

:cool:

If the prat in front stops, I think the consencus is it's an emergency for everyone but him. He seems blissfully unaware.

Highlighted the should, (you'll see it's not a must), for you.

real1314

mikey72 wrote: »

If the prat in front stops, I think the consencus is it's an emergency for everyone but him. He seems blissfully unaware.

Highlighted the should, (you'll see it's not a must), for you.

Selective reading again.

Try reading it all, like you should have done with the DirectGov page.

You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder

Your definition of an emergency is that the car in front slowed down and stopped. Er, that happens on every road, every single day.

You really do not know how you should be driving. You clearly do not read things properly and will just entrench your (misguided) view, so I'm out now. :cool:

Crabman

real1314 wrote: »

Selective reading again.

Try reading it all, like you should have done with the DirectGov page.

You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder

Your definition of an emergency is that the car in front slowed down and stopped. Er, that happens on every road, every single day.

We are not discussing "driving" on the hard shoulder.

We are talking about using the hard shoulder as an extension to the slip road in order to merge safely. That is not the same as "driving."

You have been proved wrong. But, what's important is that you learn from your mistake so you don't endanger lives next time you join a motorway

Sgt_Pepper_2

Crabman wrote: »

Solution: drive on the hard shoulder in order to prevent an accident. :cool:

Anyone with two brain cells to rub together knows you use the hard shoulder to merge with lane 1 if it isn't possible to merge from the slip road.

Do you have a source for that?

Both the highway code and the road traffic act say you shouldn't do it.

real1314

Crabman wrote: »

We are not discussing "driving" on the hard shoulder.

We are talking about using the hard shoulder as an extension to the slip road in order to merge safely. That is not the same as "driving."

You have been proved wrong. But, what's important is that you learn from your mistake so you don't endanger lives next time you join a motorway

Jesus H. That has to be the best self-delusion ever seen. Not only a complete contradiction, but also, nice use of "we" - are "you" a collective, or are you part of a "team"? I think you mean "I".

And, just to nail it home, how exactly have you proven anything? Have you got a bit of the highway code that says:

"you can use the hard shoulder if you cannot manage to merge in time to avoid doing so?" - that would prove something. You have proved nothing.

....and I'm out from trencher number 2.

:cool:

mikey72

real1314 wrote: »

.................... Er, that happens on every road, every single day..............

You stop on motorways slip roads every day?

I don't really care, the chances of you being shunted in front of me are so remote, I'll probably just see you on the news.

Keep doing that if you want to.

I'll keep moving, and call it a day on this subject.