Ar rant (with apologies) - driving in snow.

banger9365

jase1 wrote: »

Third time mentioned but still a valid point

Is it just me who has noticed that drivers who jump in front of you on motorway sliproads at 45mph never seem to do the same thing to the trucks?

I wonder why

you still get them and one's that you put on the hard should or make them stop, then they come passed you shaking the coffee beans at you :eek:
why coffee beans

Sgt_Pepper_2

scooby75 wrote: »

If you are on a slip road and there is danger entering the motorway and coming to a stop then use the hard shoulder if you have to and is safe to do so. Its there for emergencies, and preventing an accident is as good as. At least that's what the police I work with tell me.

Driving down the hard shoulder will get you three points. If the motorway is bv a stop you stop and wait.

mikey72

Sgt_Pepper wrote: »

Driving down the hard shoulder will get you three points. If the motorway is bv a stop you stop and wait.

You'll get more than 3 points if they find you stopped on the motorway slip road.

Sgt_Pepper_2

mikey72 wrote: »

You'll get more than 3 points if they find you stopped on the motorway slip road.

What when the motorway is stationary?

Don't be stupid.

mikey72

Is that what "If the motorway is bv a stop you stop and wait." meant?

real1314

mikey72 wrote: »

You'll get more than 3 points if they find you stopped on the motorway slip road.

No you won't.

If you cannot enter the motorway safely, you do not use the hard shoulder. You stop. That is what the highway code says.

Unless you can show otherwise? Perhaps a link to this invented driving offence? :cool:

Shoshannah

Looking at the road ahead is important at any time, but surely it must be even more so when driving conditions are bad?

I did manage to get stuck right near the brow of a steep hill up to my house on my way home from work yesterday - got most of the way but couldn't quite reach the top. This is likely to be due to a combination of my inadequacies as a driver and the fact my car is RWD.

There was nobody behind me, so I carefully reversed back down the hill, stopping alongside the kerb halfway down. Temporarily stranded, I put the hazards on.

After a while, I saw a Ford Focus coming up the road behind me. I expected him to pull out and overtake but instead he pulled up to my bumper and stopped. Oh dear. It took him a few seconds to realise I was stationary (for some reason, he had not already worked this out on the long trip up the bottom of the hill) and then he struggled to get going again.

The next car to come along pulled out straight away, maintained its momentum, and successfully climbed the hill with no issues.

I am really not sure why the Focus driver decided to stop. I suppose he/she had their reasons.

I got going in the end. Did what you're not supposed to do, ie put it into second gear and floored it. Got to the top of the hill sideways and the rest of the journey was uneventful.

Many of us in this country lack experience driving properly in snow, and I of course am one of them.

mikey72

real1314 wrote: »

No you won't.

If you cannot enter the motorway safely, you do not use the hard shoulder. You stop. That is what the highway code says.

Unless you can show otherwise? Perhaps a link to this invented driving offence? :cool:

I can only give the link to the real one.

You MUST NOT stop on the carriageway, hard shoulder, slip road, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform, an emergency sign or by flashing red light signals. Do not stop on the hard shoulder to either make or receive mobile phone calls.

[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5A, 7, 9, 10 & 16,MT(S)R regs 6(1), 8, 9 & 14, PRA 2002 sect 41 & sched 5(8), & RTA 1988 sects 35 & 163 as amended by TMA 2004, sect 6]


I take it you're another one that would stop on a slip road, then try to get in to moving traffic from a standing start then?

real1314

mikey72 wrote: »

I can only give the link to the real one.

You MUST NOT stop on the carriageway, hard shoulder, slip road, central reservation or verge except in an emergency, or when told to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform, an emergency sign or by flashing red light signals. Do not stop on the hard shoulder to either make or receive mobile phone calls.

[Laws MT(E&W)R regs 5A, 7, 9, 10 & 16,MT(S)R regs 6(1), 8, 9 & 14, PRA 2002 sect 41 & sched 5(8), & RTA 1988 sects 35 & 163 as amended by TMA 2004, sect 6]


I take it you're another one that would stop on a slip road, then try to get in to moving traffic from a standing start then?

No, I would "wait" on the slip road, which is not the same as "stop" on the slip road.

If you cannot find a safe gap, you have 3 options:-

1. Use an unsafe gap - Offence - Driving without due care / dangerous driving

2. Use the Hard Shoulder - Offence - using Hard Shoulder in a non-emergency situation.

3. Wait at the give way point - Not an offence.

You need to look up.

:cool:

Crabman

Sgt_Pepper wrote: »

Driving down the hard shoulder will get you three points. If the motorway is bv a stop you stop and wait.

What does "bv" stand for?