CSA Law UNFAIR! From a woman!

kelloggs36

Yes Liney and abstination = 100% protection and 100% guarantee that you won't be a parent if you don't want to be!

thesaint

ABSTINATION:eek:

Men are from Mars, Women...

Glitzkiss

Loui1979 wrote:

Actually, there are.

I beleive there are many woman exactly like this. However, the government chose not to show the statistics for obvious reasons.

Can you cite your sources please?

kelloggs36

thesaint wrote:

ABSTINATION:eek:

Men are from Mars, Women...

Pie in the sky, but it is the only answer if people do not wish to be parents. If they choose to take a risk then they must accept the possible consequences and stop blaming everybody else (including the other person involved) for their prediciment.

newcook

Kellogs - I have a great deal of respect for you and answers that you provide but I think sometimes you answer a little too bluntly!

Firstly, my partners and his ex were together for a couple of months - because he had only been with her a short while they did use condoms but one split and she became pregnant. When they first got together she told him she had been for tests etc and she was infertile and was quite upset about it - she also told him after she got pregnant that it was her ex who was infertile (she even got back with him for a while).
Secondly, OH has never shirked away from from his responsibilities - he has always paid maintenance and he has always been there for his son - even more so now we have our house and son has his own room for when he stays.
Thirdly, no I hadn't considered that women may not want to claim

All I was saying is that there are a small minority of women who will go any length to have a baby

it makes me mad too that women feel that the men are hard done by but it also makes me mad when women put the whole blame on the man - it takes 2 to tango.

Zara33

We could go round and round forever trying to see which gender is to blame but at the end of the day if both gender's are old enough to have $ex, then both are equally responsible for making sure they use some form of protection.

The real issue here is the resentment in paying for child support, the NRP resents the PWC for seeking some financial assistance........but they were both happy to do the deed at the end of the day

AS i have stated in previous posts regarding one night stands and pregnancy count yourself lucky that's all that has happened! Serious STD's are on the increase!

If you believe that you are not the parent of a child, then by all means get a DNA test, but just remember that a innocent human being is in the middle of all this resentment, they had no control over who their mother/father was and under what circumstances they were conceived.

So whether it be a one night stand or a long term relationship every single child has the right to be supported.

kelloggs36

It does indeed take 2 to tango and in most cases it is the woman left behind to struggle both financially and practically in bringing up the children - it is such a hard thankless task with much critisism by the whole of society.

Yes, I would agree that some women would go to great lengths to have a baby, but there is only 1 way to prevent it 100% as we all know!

At the end of the day, both parents are responsible for bringing a child into the world and for looking after it until it grows into an independent adult. It is very sad that relationships (however short) break down to such an extent that the children become weapons in a war rather than the focus on what is good about people. Children are a gift and should be loved and nurtured by their parents, not used in revenge against each other for actions taken by the other. Children are independent people who have needs as do every other person in the world, but they are unable to provide for those needs themselves - they rely on their parents in the first instance, but too often one of those parents let them down as they are too blind by their own fury/rage/disappointments to put the child first before ANYTHING else in their lives.

Sorry if I come across blunt, I obviously don't articulate myself in the way I intend to - hope you don't take offence!!

Zara33

thesaint wrote:

ABSTINATION:eek:

Men are from Mars, Women...

:rotfl: :rotfl:

newcook

kelloggs36 wrote:

It does indeed take 2 to tango and in most cases it is the woman left behind to struggle both financially and practically in bringing up the children - it is such a hard thankless task with much critisism by the whole of society.

Yes, I would agree that some women would go to great lengths to have a baby, but there is only 1 way to prevent it 100% as we all know!

At the end of the day, both parents are responsible for bringing a child into the world and for looking after it until it grows into an independent adult. It is very sad that relationships (however short) break down to such an extent that the children become weapons in a war rather than the focus on what is good about people. Children are a gift and should be loved and nurtured by their parents, not used in revenge against each other for actions taken by the other. Children are independent people who have needs as do every other person in the world, but they are unable to provide for those needs themselves - they rely on their parents in the first instance, but too often one of those parents let them down as they are too blind by their own fury/rage/disappointments to put the child first before ANYTHING else in their lives.

Sorry if I come across blunt, I obviously don't articulate myself in the way I intend to - hope you don't take offence!!

No offense taken at all!!

Knelley

The argument here isn't about WHO is to blame!!! It is about HOW the situation is dealt with.

I totally agree that for a woman to have a child and decide NOT to let the father know and then years later, to pop up with a 7 year old child :eek: is something that could only happen in our nightmares. Be honest, it could happen to any one of us females, not unless you are the only female that your man has been with. Remember, it doesn't matter if he used protection, it isn't always reliable. And not until you have been in this position can you comment. I know, for one, how I would feel if a woman turned up out of the blue with a child that was my partners and we had no knowledge of it. It would devastate me as it would upset the whole balance of your life and life as you know it.

I think what is being discussed here is not about blame but about the unfairness of woman that are out there who have children and don't tell the fathers. And please don't think that it could never happen to you ladies. Someone has got to be fathering these children out there. Not all of them come from broken relationships. It IS becoming more common now where fathers are hearing years later that they have a child they knew nothing about.