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Primary school putting kids "in the naughty corner" if they need the toilet

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  • Valli wrote: »
    FWIW I teach a year 3 class.

    About half the kids in Y3 ask to go during lessons...
    (There are about half who never ask)

    How do I deal with it?

    I remind the children (constantly) to use the loo at breaktime and lunchtime
    I am less than pleased (and tell them I'm not pleased) if they come in from break/lunch and ask for the loo shortly after.
    I don't stop them from going - I ask them to wait a 'couple of minutes'. Sometimes they come back and 'remind' me they need the loo (I haven't forgotten - sometimes, though, they seem to;))
    I don't let 2 children of the same gender go at the same time. So they will be told they can go when X comes back...
    Children with a diagnosed medical need don't get stopped - or even asked to wait.
    And, so far, no child has had an accident in my class having asked for the loo apart from one child who had an accident who did NOT ask for the loo (and who was on medication which caused the accident).
    And after that accident (and it wasn't wee) I got a bucket of hot water, with disinfectant in, and cleaned the classroom while the head had the class outside in the fresh air, because I wanted to be sure it was properly clean...although we have a caretaker she was not around at that time, she's there at the beginning and end of the day.
    No child has ever wet him/herself in my class. That's the way I want it to stay!
    (Mind you I also remind and remind the children to take their water bottles home to be washed and refilled with clean water every day).

    Oh - and if I have a child constantly asking for the loo I mention it, discreetly, to mum (or appropriate adult) so that he/she is aware there MAY be a problem.

    Valli, can you please work at my lo's school?!:D I wholeheartedly agree with you & just wish your methods were used at my children's..
  • What I am telling you, is that the experience you describe is unlikely in the extreme - although not impossible. If it is true, then it clearly merits a complaint, and I'm not sure why you even felt you needed to take 'advice' on that.

    The OP recently became aware of her young child experiencing something distressing in her school. I think it is wise to come onto a forum, where she knows there are many parents who can offer a wide range of opinions, experiences and perspectives. It has hopefully helped her to fully assess the situation and decide on the next step forward.

    I dont have kids yet but members of my family and friends are now at the stage where their kids are at school. Their experiences of interacting and communicating with teachers/headteachers etc are mixed. Some very positive and others not so. A few say that when they raise their concerns at the respective schools they have been met with a very defensive and non helpful attitude. Some teachers can come across very negatively when they communicate with adults, almost as if they struggle to converse with their peers after being around children all day.
    Grammar: The difference between knowing your !!!!!! and knowing you're !!!!!! :cool:
  • milliesbear - your posts do not deserve my attention anymore & will be ignored from now on...

    fingers in ears, la, la, la...

    Is this what you do whenever you are disagreed with or somebody offers a point of view other than your own?
  • I was going to say that milliebear sounds like a typical teacher

    Control freak who can't admit she might have got something wrong :cool:

    Nah, I like some teachers

    Especially those who admit they are control freaks :)

    What exactly is a 'typical teacher'?
  • thatgirlsam
    thatgirlsam Posts: 10,451 Forumite
    What exactly is a 'typical teacher'?

    Someone used to being 'in control' perhaps?

    I can only speak from my experience, same as you Millie

    Teachers make the absolute worst patients!
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  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    I have recently learned that my children's primary school (very small village school) is putting children in the naughty corner if they use the toilet outside of break times.
    This is outright cruelty. Behaviour like this also suggests that there may be other abuses waiting to be discovered.

    File formal complaints everywhere.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • Someone used to being 'in control' perhaps?

    I can only speak from my experience, same as you Millie

    Teachers make the absolute worst patients!

    Don't you think that might be a bit of a myth and stereotype? Much the same as the archetypal 'saintly, kind, patient' nurse, perhaps?
  • thatgirlsam
    thatgirlsam Posts: 10,451 Forumite
    Don't you think that might be a bit of a myth and stereotype? Much the same as the archetypal 'saintly, kind, patient' nurse, perhaps?

    Oh I don't hear that much!

    No, not a myth, just personal experience

    Or is it only your personal experiences that are valid?
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  • What I am telling you, is that the experience you describe is unlikely in the extreme - although not impossible. If it is true, then it clearly merits a complaint, and I'm not sure why you even felt you needed to take 'advice' on that.

    Honestly? YES it IS possible & it has happened...you're not sure why I felt I needed to take 'advice' on this? You have a huge chip on your shoulder & I think you need to reconsider yourself as a teacher if that's your attitude. If it's SO rare as you say, why have SEVERAL posters agreed with me with very similar experiences? Why has a family taken the action of going to the papers & news to tell their very similar story?

    Frankly with your attitude, I feel for the mental & physical safety of the children you teach, milliesbear. Have you heard that it'll easier to sack teachers soon? Unless you have something useful to post, don't bother...
  • Oh I don't hear that much!

    No, not a myth, just personal experience

    Or is it only your personal experiences that are valid?

    Not at all, but I'm guessing I know a hell of a lot more teachers than you do and that, therefore, my impression of them might be a little more, um, 'rounded' than yours appears to be. I would never, for example, claim to know what a 'typical' teacher (or nurse) is like.

    To be able to draw any conclusions from personal experiences, you need to have had more than one or two of them - just saying ;).
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