Primary school putting kids "in the naughty corner" if they need the toilet

FloFlo

mrcow wrote: »

As a teacher myself, I find this extremely disturbing. Toilet trips really are NOT that disruptive to a lesson. If it's the same kid all the time, then all the teacher has to do is remind them to go at break or even better, send them to the toilet after break/lunch if it's a problem.

Surely it's more disruptive to a lesson to have some poor 6 year old standing in the corner or even worse, soiling themselves?

OP - whoever made your child stand in the corner needs to be issuing a full and frank apology in the very least. I wouldn't settle for less. Who was it - the teacher or the teaching assistant? Is this an actual policy the school has adopted?

This just doesn't seem right, what the op has described. There is no way this could be policy in a primary school, they would face serious problems with an inspection if this was an official policy of the school.

The OP still hasn't quoted anything exactly that the head said all that was stated was that the head blamed the teachers which would suggest that it isn't something the head agrees with. If no other parents are willing to even broach the issue with the school perhaps it isn't as big an issue as you think, maybe a misunderstanding.

The one thing I can't understand is why you didn't ask to speak to your child's teacher and find out exactly what had happened with your child. I am a teacher and a parent and I would expect a parent to come to me first with concerns and then involve the head if we couldn't resolve the issue - as a parent I would also see the class teacher first before going to anyone else because how else do you find out exactly what happened.

The children are 9 in my class, they are a very immature class and go to toilet more than any other class I have ever had even more than when I have had 5 year olds. I have tried reminding them on the way in/out from break, but I don't stop them from going they just ask I say yes and they go. The only time if they aren't desparate they are asked to wait is for a few minutes if I am explaining something to the class or their group. Yes it is distracting, and a bit annoying but best to be ignored and played down.

Newly_retired

"Wait if you can, go if you must" was my usual reply when a pupil asked to go during a lesson, unless it was at a crucial moment of teaching. Occasionally some waited, most went saying " Sorry, I'm depserate".
Nobody asked to go during a test - nor during an interesting interactive team challenge!
But this was secondary school. And all girls, so I was always aware that a girl might be on her period and really need to go urgently.

Sparklyfairy

FloFlo wrote: »

This just doesn't seem right, what the op has described. There is no way this could be policy in a primary school, they would face serious problems with an inspection if this was an official policy of the school. It's not right. And I'm sure there is nothing written confirming this, either. Handy when Ofsted come around..

The OP still hasn't quoted anything exactly that the head said all that was stated was that the head blamed the teachers which would suggest that it isn't something the head agrees with. The teachers & the head confirmed this policy as per my post #29...

If no other parents are willing to even broach the issue with the school perhaps it isn't as big an issue as you think, maybe a misunderstanding.Others HAVE, apparently the LEA know her antics well, so I'm learning. A Govenor has had this happen to their child I have discovered very recently & went through all the correct complaints procedure but this is still happening!!

The one thing I can't understand is why you didn't ask to speak to your child's teacher and find out exactly what had happened with your child. I am a teacher and a parent and I would expect a parent to come to me first with concerns and then involve the head if we couldn't resolve the issue - as a parent I would also see the class teacher first before going to anyone else because how else do you find out exactly what happened. I have. Everyday this week. Please read the entire thread.

My answers are in red..

Sparklyfairy

In case anyone else has this or a similar issue - I found this on the DirectGov website which shows the correct complaint procedure in schools..

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Parents/Schoolslearninganddevelopment/YourChildsWelfareAtSchool/DG_4016106

I also read that I could lodge a complaint with the Social Services...but as for now, I've spoken to the school, warned them that should it happen to my children again a formal complaint will be lodged with the Govenors, failing that, LEA, Ofsted..I'm hoping the threat is enough, though...=(

thatgirlsam

Sparklyfairy wrote: »

Ok, this am I ask my dd who was made to clean up the wee & she told me she had to! I'm so cross it's unreal!

I have emailed the school asking for their complaints policy to be sent to me & I have also called the school nurse (off til Tues) hoping to ask her to come in & re-educate the staff on the importance of using the toilet & how to prevent urinary tract infections...

Oh no

She had to clean it up? How humiliating for her

I really hope it was not done in front of all the other children, kids can be so cruel to each other

Sparklyfairy

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Oh no

She had to clean it up? How humiliating for her

I really hope it was not done in front of all the other children, kids can be so cruel to each other

Ug - I know. I feel so sick from it all because it's getting worse every day :mad:. I'm assuming the other kids were there to watch her clean it up, but I don't want to bring it up to her again - rehashing it all & bringing up those awful feelings each time...

thatgirlsam

Sparklyfairy wrote: »

Ug - I know. I feel so sick from it all because it's getting worse every day :mad:. I'm assuming the other kids were there to watch her clean it up, but I don't want to bring it up to her again - rehashing it all & bringing up those awful feelings each time...

Its just not on is it.

Whats next, rubbing their noses in it? :mad:

Treating children like this could be very emotionally damaging - making an issue out of a bodily fuction that was obviously out of her control!!

I am really shocked that any teacher thinks this is appropriate behaviour

thatgirlsam

I wonder if the General Teaching Council would be able to help you?

I know they have a code of conduct for teachers and I'm not sure if you could get any information from them about complaining regarding a policy?

Sparklyfairy

thatgirlsam wrote: »

I wonder if the General Teaching Council would be able to help you?

I know they have a code of conduct for teachers and I'm not sure if you could get any information from them about complaining regarding a policy?

I'll Google it now...many thanks for the pointer x

Sparklyfairy

thatgirlsam, that was an excellent pointer, actually. Loads of info in here regarding teacher's code of conduct...will be useful when/if I write up the formal complaint & another body in which to complain to if need be. x