Do you, or anyone you know, shoot living things for sport?

vax2002

Pheasants are bred to be shot, because the rich are to crap a shot to hit a pigeon, they need something slower.
They are bred and kept in farms, they have their wings clipped and are dumped in woods with shelters about a fortnight before the shoot, unable to feed themselves as they were farmed, hungry and cold they are flushed by beaters in to clearings in the centre of woods to be blasted to death by rich blood thirsty shooters, as their wings are clipped, they are simply flushed back in the same direction they came from as they can only manage a hundred yards or so with clipped wings.
So often one that turns up in your garden is a farmed pheasant that has managed a few hundred yards at a time trying to escape.
A fully wild pheasant will take flight and you will never see it again.

Lotus-eater

vax2002 wrote: »

Pheasants are bred to be shot, because the rich are to crap a shot to hit a pigeon, they need something slower.
They are bred and kept in farms, they have their wings clipped and are dumped in woods with shelters about a fortnight before the shoot, unable to feed themselves as they were farmed, hungry and cold they are flushed by beaters in to clearings in the centre of woods to be blasted to death by rich blood thirsty shooters, as their wings are clipped, they are simply flushed back in the same direction they came from as they can only manage a hundred yards or so with clipped wings.
So often one that turns up in your garden is a farmed pheasant that has managed a few hundred yards at a time trying to escape.
A fully wild pheasant will take flight and you will never see it again.

Well when I used to help on shoots it was certainly nothing like that.

Not clipped, out for a long time before the shooting, fed all the time from feeding stations.

And from what I see all around me (literally) it's still the same here.

cavework

vax2002 wrote: »

Pheasants are bred to be shot, because the rich are to crap a shot to hit a pigeon, they need something slower.
They are bred and kept in farms, they have their wings clipped and are dumped in woods with shelters about a fortnight before the shoot, unable to feed themselves as they were farmed, hungry and cold they are flushed by beaters in to clearings in the centre of woods to be blasted to death by rich blood thirsty shooters, as their wings are clipped, they are simply flushed back in the same direction they came from as they can only manage a hundred yards or so with clipped wings.
So often one that turns up in your garden is a farmed pheasant that has managed a few hundred yards at a time trying to escape.
A fully wild pheasant will take flight and you will never see it again.

Not sure where you get your facts from Vax but we have Pheasant pens all around us.
The 'poor' pheasants you describe often show up in our garden with a female and young ones in tow.
Just for information ...
http://www.basc.org.uk//en/codes-of-practice/code-of-good-shooting-practice.cfm

angelil

You can eat game as well you know.

I always find it completely hypocritical when people get themselves into a jumped-up tizzy about fox-hunting/the fur industry etc, but will happily wear leather and eat a battery chicken. Get yourself some proper principles and work out what you really believe in. Saying that 'people need meat' is nonsensical, otherwise all the vegetarians in the world would be a) dead or b) very sick indeed (and I found quite the opposite when I went veggie; I was slimmer, healthier and had more energy, and my food bill went down as well! Very MSE!).

(If you're a fully-fledged vegetarian who only wears fake leather etc, then disregard all of the above )

lostinrates

Lotus-eater wrote: »

Well when I used to help on shoots it was certainly nothing like that.

Not clipped, out for a long time before the shooting, fed all the time from feeding stations.

And from what I see all around me (literally) it's still the same here.

Quite. While early rearing ime is usually intensive and not
Ovely and free ranging, the rest described is not something i am familiar with either.

cavework

Fox hunting does absolutely nothing for me personally , I find it completely pointless but it has given employment in the countryside for a long time. .. I do not wear fox skin , eat fox or wear any fur
I do wear leather , eat chicken and other meat.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

Honeydog

Shooting animals or birds is barbaric. We're not in the wild west where living creatures need to be killed in that way for food. I always think people who enjoy shooting must have some kind of inadequacy in another area of their lives "Ooohhh..eerrrrr missus!"

cavework

The people who go out in controlled shoots .. farm .. and make a living ,also contribute to the way the countryside is managed . Do you really think that the hedgerows and woodland areas look after themselves?
Do you really think that if the countryside was left without these people , your natural wildlife would have an easy stress free life?

Savvy_Sue

lostinrates wrote: »

It is not off, no apology required, i have tried to edit to improve. I have a combination of a machine that likes to insert full stops in the middle of things and a neurological disorder that often makes my use of language a bit hit and miss.:o:)

Ah, that explains your signature, which has been puzzling me for some time:

I just like very geometric things. I think in my ideal garden hard landscaping should be symmetrical and pants should be crazy and defy that man made enclosure.

I guess I should probably be thinking of plants rather than imagining someone bursting out of crazy pants in all directions - can you confirm?

sorry aj, that's very ot.

I'm still hoping someone will confirm whether pheasants do actually drown by drinking raindrops, to get us back ON t.

Rikki

My OH shoots game and it's all around us here on the big estates. I have seen the pheasants from poults to flying and it is very different from how it has been portrayed on here.

I agree every one is entitled to their own opinion I just wish some were a little more informed.


aliasojo I can imagine it came as quite a shock to find you had moved to an area where game shooting happens. We love having them in the garden and watch them feeding they are beautiful birds especially with the sun shinning on their feathers. We gave them names this year to go with their funny little ways.

All the birds from our days shoots are taken and eaten, nothing goes to waste.