Do you, or anyone you know, shoot living things for sport?

Lunar_Eclipse

Lotus-eater wrote: »

No pheasants are killed for food, food is the by product of the shooting industry.
Which is purely and simply for fun/sport.

And they are all raised by the landowner for this very purpose.

Oh.

I don't agree with it then. Or more importantly, I don't understand why it's allowed, when we can't even end our own lives lawfully. Is it purely to sustain the industry?

Also, I'm wondering where the line is drawn. You can shoot pheasants for fun, but not drown kittens for fun (you'd be prosecuted.)

What a strange country we live in.

dizziblonde

They are the sort of bird that, without some animal husbandry and protection, would be the avian equivalent of the people who appear on statistics having killed themselves with their own underpants. They are as thick as it's possible to get - hilarious to watch but blooming stupid as anything. My mum regularly gets them in her garden as the relatively local rich landowner has them on his estate for shooting - and while they're hilarious - they're candidates for the bird Darwin Awards if ever there's one.

They're not being shot just to be shot - they're being shot and will be used for consumption - so in that way it's no different to the normal food-chain if you're a meat eater anyway - but I bet they've had a better life than the average battery chicken.

On the other hand - you can always pull the newcomer to the village wanting to run roughshod over everything routine which will really endear you to the neighbourhood if you want to.

Lotus-eater

On the other hand, if pheasants weren't raised to be shot, then we wouldn't have any pheasants at all. And some escape the shooting........ normally managing to get run over instead.

Seanymph

Or they get run over before getting the chance to be shot - I think you have the order wrong

I had them for stupid birds until one made me late for picking up my kids from Heathrow.

I borrowed OH's car for the drive, and it kept overheating. Ended up in a motorway service station on the phone to him distraught (the girls were only 12 and 13 and flying alone)........ he asked me to describe down the phone, in the rain, what I could see in the engine.

Big round black thing, couple of black cables, birds foot, a hollow white plastic thing

'Birds foot?'

Erm, yep birds foot

Turned out to be attached to the entire bird that had somehow gone up under the radiator and lodged behind it. Pheasant of course.

Pulling that out on the side of the road is one of the nastier things I've had to do.

Stupid stupid pheasants.

LandyAndy

We have loads of pheasants round here and they are truly the the stupidest creatures on God's earth.

I don't have any problem with them being shot. I eat them along with pigeons and rabbits and partridges and very tasty they are too.

The idea that letting a pheasant run around outside and do 'pheasanty' things and then shooting it is in some way 'worse' than raising a chicken in a shed and then killing it in a factory seems odd to me.

Fritillary

Lotus-eater wrote: »

On the other hand, if pheasants weren't raised to be shot, then we wouldn't have any pheasants at all. And some escape the shooting........ normally managing to get run over instead.

Round here if a pheasant gets run over it doesn't go to waste, long as its a clean kill it will get picked up pretty quick to be taken home and eaten. Not by me tho don't fancy roadkill!

And a few years ago a whole flock of geese flew into electricity cables and just fell out of the sky, there was a lot of people eating goose that week!

lostinrates

I don 't find it more palateble to kill stuff becuase i find them less clever, but yes, i feel i kill things for fun.

The killing bit is nOt fun, but if you breed chickens as i do that its inevitable you have to control them. There are a limit to the males that will get on and a slow fight to the death between cockerals has to be as cruel at least as a quick death.

My lifestyle atm fits around these birds and other animals, all of which i chose...i could just buy it with someone else having dopne the dirty work.

I do not particularly like game bird rearing, bird rearing.....on release its a good, natural life...not necessarily nice....there is a lot of confusion about natural and nice.....buit the initial rearing can be rather intensive. it is not quite as it is being portrayed in some posts above as a result.


I really admire not pet owning vegans, but i do not want to be one atm. Unless i were i feel any of this sort of discussion is inevitably hypocritical and anthropomorphic both.

LandyAndy

lostinrates wrote: »

I don 't find it more palateble to kill stuff becuase i find them less clever, but yes, i feel i kill things for fun. The bit is nOt fun, but if you breed chickens that its inevitable you have to control them. There are a limit to the males that will get on and a slow fight to the death between cockerals has to be as cruel at least as a quick death.

My lifestyle atm firs around these birds and other animals, all of which i chose...i could just buy it with someone else having dopne the dirty work.

I do not particularly like hame bird rearing.....on release its a good, natural life...not necessarily nice....there is a lot of confusion about natural and nice.....buit the initial rearing can be rather intensive.


I really admire not pet owning vegans, but i dpo not want to be one atm. Unless i were i feel any of this sort of discussion is inevitably hypocritical and anthropomorphic both.

Are you feeling Ok?

And if you are can we have that again in English?

Sorry, that sounds a bit 'off' but I'm genuinely struggling to understand some of it.

epsilondraconis

Hi Aliasojo, I can see how my post could have come across. No need for you to apologise.

In a bid to try to contribute something useful to the thread, I used to go coarse fishing years ago when I was a kid (until I was 15ish). At the time I didn't see it as being cruel. My dad went once with a guy from work and I tagged along. I kind of enjoyed it. Ironically my dad never went fishing again because it wasn't his thing; however I continued to go with the guy from his work and he was a bit of a grandfather figure for me.

Now I don't go fishing partly because I have other more exciting things to do, but mainly because I think it is cruel - especially with coarse fishing where you catch the fish and then just put them back. I wouldn't go pheasant shooting, not because it is cruel (because they are being eaten after all), more because I don't want to be the one responsible for doing the killing.

I guess sometimes, if you are brought up in a certain society e.g. one that likes to go out pheasant shooting, you're more likely to continue that as you get older. Its something country folk just do.

LandyAndy

epsilondraconis wrote: »

Hi Aliasojo, I can see how my post could have come across. No need for you to apologise.

In a bid to try to contribute something useful to the thread, I used to go coarse fishing years ago when I was a kid (until I was 15ish). At the time I didn't see it as being cruel. My dad went once with a guy from work and I tagged along. I kind of enjoyed it. Ironically my dad never went fishing again because it wasn't his thing; however I continued to go with the guy from his work and he was a bit of a grandfather figure for me.

Now I don't go fishing partly because I have other more exciting things to do, but mainly because I think it is cruel - especially with coarse fishing where you catch the fish and then just put them back. I wouldn't go pheasant shooting, not because it is cruel (because they are being eaten after all), more because I don't want to be the one responsible for doing the killing.

I guess sometimes, if you are brought up in a certain society e.g. one that likes to go out pheasant shooting, you're more likely to continue that as you get older. Its something country folk just do.

Every time you buy meat you are, at least in part, responsible for the death.