Do you, or anyone you know, shoot living things for sport?

lostinrates

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

Oh.

I don't agree with it then. Or more importantly, I don't understand why it's allowed, when we can't even end our own lives lawfully. Is it purely to sustain the industry?

Also, I'm wondering where the line is drawn. You can shoot pheasants for fun, but not drown kittens for fun (you'd be prosecuted.)

What a strange country we live in.

There is no doubt, we draw our lines in the sand where suits our justifications.

Imo choice, where it does not promote unethicL husbandry or killing...i.e. humane options taken, is important. For example, i do not choose to eat meat which has been kept and killed in an unethical way and find it hard to understand how some people will do that yet complain about hunting/shooting, but i also respect it is their right to do just that.

Simialrly with pet keeping i might want some weird and wonderful animals but i would be unable to meet their needs to what i consider an ethical standard......so i grudgingly accpet i cannot have them.

As it is an an animal keeping, eating and indeed in someways exploiting person i try and make my choices based on their natures, needs as well as my wants.

Lotus-eater

LandyAndy wrote: »

The idea that letting a pheasant run around outside and do 'pheasanty' things

ie getting run over, flying into trees and killing themselves, getting eaten by foxes, getting stuck in car radiators........... those sorts of pheasanty things?

There probably should be a law against rearing pheasants, damn cruel to the pheasants I reckon, being made to live a life like that

lostinrates

LandyAndy wrote: »

Are you feeling Ok?

And if you are can we have that again in English?

Sorry, that sounds a bit 'off' but I'm genuinely struggling to understand some of it.

It is not off, no apology required, i have tried to edit to improve. I have a combination of a machine that likes to insert full stops in the middle of things and a neurological disorder that often makes my use of language a bit hit and miss.:o:)

epsilondraconis

LandyAndy wrote: »

Every time you buy meat you are, at least in part, responsible for the death.

Absolutely right, which is why so many of the general public are perceived as being hypocritical. I don't want any animals to be killed unnecessarily or suffer cruel treatment; however I eat meat.

I used to play sunday league football - I was a goalie for 10 years. If I ever saw a worm in the penalty area I used to pick it up and place it away from the goal so it wouldn't get trodden on. I just didn't want the worm to suffer.

I think it all comes down to a person's perception and interpretation of the word cruelty. One person's cruelty is another person's sport.

PolishBigSpender

aliasojo wrote: »

I don't understand the mentality of someone who can take a life or cause pain to another living thing *just* for fun. These people are not hunting for food, they are hunting for sport. I also don't understand why they can't substitute clay pigeons in place of a live bird. The object is to hit a target so why does it have to be a live one?

I completely agree with you. What kind of person do you have to be to take PLEASURE from the fact of killing an animal? And call it sport?
I don't suppose people killing cows or hens are doing it for fun, and people need meat, so it's completely different thing. It's their job, unpleasant as it is, but someone has to do it. But hunting is different, hunters are proud of what they're doing and they find it a nice activity, a hobby. And to me it's just sick.

Emmzi

I believe you shouldn't get to eat animals if you aren't prepared to kill and skin it yourself. So I find shooting less offensive than the butcher counter at Tesco.

cavework

My Mum in the 30's was fed by another family in the road , starling pie. My G Dad used to shoot rabbits for food and also use a ferret. Grey squirrels were shot and people got paid for the tails.
The problem is people who move to the country and do not understand its ways.
These Pheasants are bred and the majority who are shot will get eaten it is just a way of life . I am more concerned about the amount of fish this country has to throw back because of stupid legislation.
We have Pheasants in our garden and one new arrival was gobsmacked to see 'a peacock' wandering around :rotfl:
My grandad also used to drown the kittens that Mums female cat used to produce on a regular basis .. there was no such thing as neutering in those days , but he always left her one kitten.
The pheasants are well looked after and have time to enjoy freedom in a natural enviroment. Shooting is a sport but the end result is most birds are consumed.
G dad hated fox hunting .. they used to block up the fox sets the night before a hunt.
He and a mate used to keep a pig every year and feed it up , then the pig was stuck (look it up) in the bath and it fed the family for months
Most people who live in the country have a huge respect for the animals around them.

gemlcoleman

Seanymph wrote: »

It's not 'fun' - it's an 'industry'. It's part of 'husbanding' some land, an additional way of farming. It's also very expensive to run, and brings in really good money.

I've sat thinking about it since I posted - everything from gun dogs, breeders, training, through rifles, country shops, country wear......... the amount of people's livelihoods relying on this industry is phenomenal when you think about it.

Hmm. Just because it's an industry, with jobs relying on it, doesn't make it right.

Also, those saying its humane, what about the birds that don't get found by the dogs? The ones that manage to hide with injuries and die slowly? Doesn't sound very humane to me.

jackyann

I grew up in the countryside in the 50s, and we were very glad of tasty pheasant, rabbit, hare, partridge etc. that came our way (and yes, cavework, I remember the pigs!)
Now I buy them from a local butcher. Ours advertises "local pheasants, shot by local peasants"
Someone mentioned "toffs" - not round here it isn't!

gemlcoleman

cavework wrote: »

Most people who live in the country have a huge respect for the animals around them.

Words cannot express!!!!