Do you, or anyone you know, shoot living things for sport?

artichoke

we do see a lot of "road kill" badgers that suddenly appear one night .....no raod kill for weeks then suddenly 6 in one night... so i also think people are finding their own solutions..

I have also seen people lamping badgers - which worries me as i have black and white springers that run through the same fields at night..

We have not got a TB problem here - we keep the cows as far away from the fields with the badger sets...and try and keep everyone's immune systems healthy..

Art

QuackQuackOops

aliasojo wrote: »

Unknown to us at the time, we moved into an area that has pheasant shooting.

The pheasants strut about in the local gardens and fields every day, we have several that visit our garden in particular.

We then hear all the bangs of them being shot in the next field and tbh it's really bothering me.

I've never agreed with fox hunting but have not really thought about game hunting before. However, living here has brought home to us just how popular this 'sport' seems to be. Since the shooting season has started, we hear the bangs pretty much every day and there are notices up on the usual walks to warn people that shooting is taking place in the area.

I don't understand the mentality of someone who can take a life or cause pain to another living thing *just* for fun. These people are not hunting for food, they are hunting for sport. I also don't understand why they can't substitute clay pigeons in place of a live bird. The object is to hit a target so why does it have to be a live one?

Needless to say my (admittedly very sensitive), vegetarian daughter is suffering agonies just now and I can't answer her 'why' questions as I just don't understand myself.

They are eaten.

Meat eaters have to kill animals all the time but just because you have someone else do that job for you doesnt mean that they do it well or without torment to the animals.

I was disgusted when I read about places that supply chicken to KFC and will never ever eat any chicken from there again. It was competition in there to throw chickens at walls to see how long it takes to kill them.

There are hundreds of cruel ways that people treat animals. Hunting/shooting is not one of them.

Peater

artichoke wrote: »

we do see a lot of "road kill" badgers that suddenly appear one night .....no raod kill for weeks then suddenly 6 in one night... so i also think people are finding their own solutions..

Indeed, if they were true roadkill, you would find a car minus radiator and sump a few hundred yards up the road. Tough little !!!!!!s!

Peater

cavework wrote: »

The people who go out in controlled shoots .. farm .. and make a living ,also contribute to the way the countryside is managed . Do you really think that the hedgerows and woodland areas look after themselves?
Do you really think that if the countryside was left without these people , your natural wildlife would have an easy stress free life?

Spot on post.

If farmers deserted the countryside (as the ramblers association would like), it would be a forest of thistles and nettles within the year.

artichoke

Peater wrote: »

I Tough little !!!!!!s!

but not if slow cooked:eek: local and organic:eek:

Lotus-eater

Peater wrote: »

Spot on post.

If farmers deserted the countryside (as the ramblers association would like), it would be a forest of thistles and nettles within the year.

But then it would revert to forest and trails beneath the trees, you can't use that argument.

We live in a heavily populated country, where almost all land is used in one fashion or another.

That has to be accepted and our use of it adapted.

artichoke

Lotus-eater wrote: »

But then it would revert to forest and trails beneath the trees, you can't use that argument.

We live in a heavily populated country, where almost all land is used in one fashion or another.

That has to be accepted and our use of it adapted.

i so want to debate but i MUST go to bed... i am never up so late and will suffer in the morning...

Art

twiglet98

QuackQuackOops wrote: »

They are eaten.

Meat eaters have to kill animals all the time but just because you have someone else do that job for you doesnt mean that they do it well or without torment to the animals.

I was disgusted when I read about places that supply chicken to KFC and will never ever eat any chicken from there again. It was competition in there to throw chickens at walls to see how long it takes to kill them.

There are hundreds of cruel ways that people treat animals. Hunting/shooting is not one of them.

Very well said. I bet a huge proportion of the 'anti' brigade buy value chicken without losing sleep over the hideous treatment of broiler hens.

We have different shoots using the farmland on three sides of our house, and I work on a farm where a shoot takes place once or twice a month. I'm thrilled to be offered the odd brace of pheasant. Almost all shot pheasants are eaten, they're really highly unlikely to "take days to die". Without organised shoots breeding, releasing and feeding them, you'd hardly see any pheasants. We have them in the garden all the time, raiding the chicken feed and pottering hopefully under the birdtable. It saddens us to see them squashed on the road but we warmly support both the shoot and the local hunt.

Cruelty is rampant in countless pet homes, in so many areas of intensive farming, deliberate cruelty, and cruelty through sheer ignorance. Field sports is the wrong area to focus attention on LACK of animal welfare - quite the opposite. To maintain a habitat that best suits the prey animal takes knowledge, effort and passion. The pheasants have been bred with the intention that a percentage will be shot during the season - not that they are exterminated. And their life is pretty good, traffic on quiet lanes is the daily hazard.

Most people eat meat and that's the way it is. Let that meat come from animals and birds that had a decent life. Pheasants don't do too badly. How much of the meat in the supermarket aisles and how much of that meat in your freezer had it so good?

Gloomendoom

LisaB85 wrote: »

So shooting a rod of steel at a cows/pigs head (often not killing it) then having their throat slit isn't barbaric? I suggest researching how the meat you eat from the supermarket is kept and killed.

The bolt isn't supposed to kill it. It is supposed to render the beast unconscious before its throat is cut to kill it.

purpleprincess

I haven't read the whole thread but I'm surprised this is new to you...haven't you just moved from an area where this is REALLY popular?

Deer, pheasants, grouse, rabbits, foxes, migrating geese etc...I would have thought you'd be (sadly) used the sound of gunshot.