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Glen_Clark

krisskross wrote: »

Do we have people freezing to death because they have no homes?

.......I only have to look round my local shopping centre to see dozens of overweight adults and children......

YES! Shelter and the Big Issue have published cases of homeless people dying on the streets of Britain from hypothermia, and malnutrition. You need to go further than your local shopping centre to see it.
The life expectancy of a homeless person is only 47 - link http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/21/homeless-people-life-expectancy-47 So how can you say poverty is not bad for health!
Poverty is also a major cause of stress, which again is bad for health.

Oldernotwiser

rogerblack wrote: »

3) Women in the workplace.
4) Immigrants.
5) The up-skilling of jobs.

None of these is responsible alone for it being more difficult for some to find work.

But with more and more jobs requiring skills, and more and more competent women entering the workplace, it gets harder and harder for the 'unemployable' to find a job.

In the past, there used to be a lot more really unskilled tasks.
There were jobs where you simply had to get to work on time, and then push a button when a light went on.

If you increase the pool of employable people by encouraging/forcing women into work, while at the same time eliminating many of the unskilled jobs - there are going to be a large number of people that are truly unemployable.

Both due to being incapable of the jobs available to them and not having the skills to do them.

What to do with these people is not simple.
Simply putting them back into the job market by declaring them fit is just going to boost the number of people on JSA.

Just because people are finding it difficult to get jobs is no reason fro them to be claiming disability benefits. That's one of the problems that's got us into this mess in the first place!

Hank_Marvin

Don't ATOS use qualified doctors and have specialists on hand. Never heard of them but google says they are Healthcare pro's.

Oldernotwiser

Glen_Clark wrote: »

YES! Shelter and the Big Issue have published cases of homeless people dying on the streets of Britain from hypothermia, and malnutrition. You need to go further than your local shopping centre to see it.
The life expectancy of a homeless person is only 47 - link http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/dec/21/homeless-people-life-expectancy-47 So how can you say poverty is not bad for health!
Poverty is also a major cause of stress, which again is bad for health.

Homeless people do not necessarily live on the streets and are able to claim benefits even if they do.

Oldernotwiser

Hank_Marvin wrote: »

Don't ATOS use qualified doctors and have specialists on hand. Never heard of them but google says they are Healthcare pro's.

ATOS use qualified medical professionals who may be doctors, nurses or other professionally qualified practitioners.

Weary_soul

ATOS use qualified medical professionals who may be doctors, nurses or other professionally qualified practitioners.

Thats the funniest thing I've read all day. *hoots*

FOX_HOUND

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

ATOS use qualified medical professionals who may be doctors, nurses or other professionally qualified practitioners.

Well, they're wasted.

Computer says no!

Oldernotwiser

Weary_soul wrote: »

Thats the funniest thing I've read all day. *hoots*

Then you must be very easily amused.

Weary_soul

Well with this government there so much to laugh about imo. If you didn't laugh you'd cry.

rogerblack

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Just because people are finding it difficult to get jobs is no reason fro them to be claiming disability benefits. That's one of the problems that's got us into this mess in the first place!

I agree.

How we deal with those on the edge of being disabled is hard.

In the past, many of these people would have been able to get some, probably low-paid work, but still work.

The current system is broken. For example - there is no leaflet at all for ESA, and how it works with self-employed permitted work.

I have doubts that Universal Credit is going to end up as a fairer, more just system.