Claiming DLA and Esa

scootw1

colpol1 wrote: »

Thank you so much! After everyone giving out to me was nice to hear someone offer some good advice

I would take heed of some of the other advice if I were you as the last couple of posts are telling you what your situation is and if the DWP get wind of it you may end up facing questions. It's for your own good I'm afraid.

colpol1

scootw1 wrote: »

I would take heed of some of the other advice if I were you as the last couple of posts are telling you what your situation is and if the DWP get wind of it you may end up facing questions. It's for your own good I'm afraid.

I dont think I will as most of its just been abuse really.

Like I said, when I get in touch with the ESA, I will happily let you all know whats going on

mazza111

Maybe I just offered some understanding on this girl's condition. Depression and anxiety can be a bstid to live with. I suffered from it (post natal) and the ignoring it is a common symptom of it, as well as the putting yourself down. For me it was locking myself away and having no contact with anyone. Forcing myself to go shopping with my parents cos the kids needed feeding, if it wasn't for them I would probably have stayed indoors and not went out at all. Burying my head in the sand was the easiest and safest option for me. Not the right option, but the easiest.

Connexions should have gave the advice she was needing and encouraged her to see her GP instead of recommending she claim JSA. She won't get her life changed until she accepts that she needs help from her GP.

But as I've said before Colpol, there is help available, you just need to get yourself geared up to accept it. It may be a long battle, it may be reoccurring but with the right help it can be beaten

midnight_express

colpol1 wrote: »

I dont think I will as most of its just been abuse really.

Like I said, when I get in touch with the ESA, I will happily let you all know whats going on

FRAUD is a criminal offence.

Nyfle

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

It is very difficult to feel a great deal of sympathy for someone who has been ill for 3 years and in all that time has never consulted a doctor about it. The fact that it's mental illness makes no difference; you wouldn't walk round with a broken leg for 3 years!

You really shouldn't judge people of whom you know nothing about. And it really is quite annoying how often you berate and belittle people on this board. It really is in very poor taste. Granted, you are not the only one that does it, alas your know-it-all attitude makes your judgemental tone stick out more than others.

Yes, 3 years is a long time, but you have absolutely no clue as to what the background of the OP is. You really do not know everything. And just in case it needs saying a third time. You don't know what lead to their anxiety, panic attacks, and probable depression. 3 years can actually be a quick turnaround in cases of extreme mental trauma, CPTSD and so on.

Anyway, I don't expect you'll take any notice of what I've just said, so I'll not darken the door of this thread again. I will say to the OP, though, that if you don't want this thread to turn into 10 pages of benefit-bashing, I'd do a google search for the Consumer Action Group and visit their benefit advice forums if you want advice without being judged.

mazza111

tomjonesrules wrote: »

We all understand it. Most that have been through it know that *hugs* don't really get you anywhere though.

The OP is showing classic *victim* behaviour, any advice that she does not like is immediately classified as abuse. Carry on like this and you can bet she'll be back in ten years time still on benefits and still no better.

and *victim* behaviour can be a sign of depression. All I can see on here is people criticising her for claiming JSA when that's what she was advised to do. She's a young lass, and can only go on the advice she's been given by the workers at connexions (guessing this is some sort of youth advisory thing)

And if you knew me I'm not the hugz and cuddlez type of person :rotfl: Just a wee bit of understanding of the way that depression can affect people. Young people especially. I know a 21 year old that has been suffering since the suicide of her boyfriend. But didn't know how to get help, didn't know where to turn. Lost her job because she didn't have the energy to get out of bed. Claimed JSA because that's what she was told to claim by the advisers at the job centre.

Guess what I'm trying to get at is that if these kids aren't given the right advice is it any wonder they are claiming the wrong benefit? Should the OP not have been given some sort of counselling after being homeless at the age of 16 instead of being told to claim JSA which seems to be the easiest option for all at the DWP.

At the end of the day the OP is now seeking the advice and treatment that she should have been on years ago and I wish her luck. Even if it helps with a wee bit of confidence it will be worth it.

bestpud

mazza111 wrote: »

and *victim* behaviour can be a sign of depression. All I can see on here is people criticising her for claiming JSA when that's what she was advised to do. She's a young lass, and can only go on the advice she's been given by the workers at connexions (guessing this is some sort of youth advisory thing)

And if you knew me I'm not the hugz and cuddlez type of person :rotfl: Just a wee bit of understanding of the way that depression can affect people. Young people especially. I know a 21 year old that has been suffering since the suicide of her boyfriend. But didn't know how to get help, didn't know where to turn. Lost her job because she didn't have the energy to get out of bed. Claimed JSA because that's what she was told to claim by the advisers at the job centre.

Guess what I'm trying to get at is that if these kids aren't given the right advice is it any wonder they are claiming the wrong benefit? Should the OP not have been given some sort of counselling after being homeless at the age of 16 instead of being told to claim JSA which seems to be the easiest option for all at the DWP.

At the end of the day the OP is now seeking the advice and treatment that she should have been on years ago and I wish her luck. Even if it helps with a wee bit of confidence it will be worth it.

Going on what is written here, I don't think they are on the wrong benefits tbh.

The 'problem' is they are being asked to search more actively after so long on JSA and they are in a rut. Put simply, they don't want to change yet!

The partner is capable of work but seems to be enabling the OP rather than actively looking.

We can all blame some aspect of our past for the things we do now, but there comes a point where you have to accept no childhood is perfect and draw a line.

OP - you need to get yourself some treatment. After this length of time, it will be difficult to separate depression from the natural consequence of not leaving your comfort zone in three years, so you need to start making small changes, one step at a time.

Don't write yourself off as you will look back one day and wish you'd changed your life earlier. Life is too short to spend it wallowing indoors with a (for all but a few cases) curable condition.

mazza111

The OP is stating she can't work because of panic attacks and anxiety. Typical depression symptoms. I'm not a medical expert, hence why I said she should see her GP and follow his advice.

I don't know the OP, just know of others in the same situation. If it was a case of drawing a line, it would be easy eh? Mental illness is an illness and while I agree the OP could have done more to help herself in her situation. I'm not going to judge her for that.

The 'problem' is they are being asked to search more actively after so long on JSA and they are in a rut. Put simply, they don't want to change yet!

I find that quite judgmental. You could be right, I don't know, but i normally like to give people the benefit of doubt until they prove me wrong.

The partner is capable of work but seems to be enabling the OP rather than actively looking.

He might be looking for work for all we know. He might be a lay about, I don't know, again benefit of the doubt.

OP - you need to get yourself some treatment. After this length of time, it will be difficult to separate depression from the natural consequence of not leaving your comfort zone in three years, so you need to start making small changes, one step at a time.

This I do agree with. And what should she live on during this time?

ESA, not job seekers.

bestpud

mazza111 wrote: »

The OP is stating she can't work because of panic attacks and anxiety. Typical depression symptoms. I'm not a medical expert, hence why I said she should see her GP and follow his advice.

I don't know the OP, just know of others in the same situation. If it was a case of drawing a line, it would be easy eh? Mental illness is an illness and while I agree the OP could have done more to help herself in her situation. I'm not going to judge her for that.



I find that quite judgmental. You could be right, I don't know, but i normally like to give people the benefit of doubt until they prove me wrong.



He might be looking for work for all we know. He might be a lay about, I don't know, again benefit of the doubt.



This I do agree with. And what should she live on during this time?

ESA, not job seekers.

The OH is claiming JSA and they almost certainly have all housing costs paid, so they aren't destitute.

He seriously needs to up his search as they need an income. ESA is not the answer here.

mazza111

Yes he does, but that's really irrelevant to the OP condition. And jobs are rare in some places these days.

I'm not advocating a life on benefits for this kid. Just that she gets what she should be getting while making the changes she needs to improve her life.