When does extended breastfeeding become weird....

poet123

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Yes I agree with the notion that women have the right to do what they like with their own bodies

Hey I'm a feminist! :cool:

I don't think feminists tell other women what to do with their bodies do they?

If they do that makes a complete mockery of everything they stand for

That was my point with the rape analogy. The stance was incompatible with other opinion expressed by that poster.

lostinrates

thatgirlsam wrote: »

I will be a personist

Fwiw I only want to be a personist:). I have feel as oppressed by feminism as by anti female attitudes, and neither of them all that much, in my life. I do feel 'categorised ' by my sex, but not held back overly by it, no more than I might for other things...and everyone has something.

Marisco

Well I didn't BF because I didn't want to, end of!:p I have 5 grandchildren and one great grand child, none were BF and all are healthy and happy. I'm a firm believer of each to their own, and cannot understand this obsession with other peoples' business! I saw Person Ones post about formula on script and was appalled!! How dare anyone tell me how I should feed my kids, and force me to do something I don't want to!!

POPPYOSCAR

peachyprice wrote: »

Really, I'm sure there's a post from someone saying they would like formula to be available through prescription only, for women who 'really' need it. If that isn't condemning women who choose to FF I don't know what is

Yes I read that. I do not happen to agree with her but I still do not equate this as her saying that bottlefeeding makes for a 'bad' mother etc.

POPPYOSCAR

poet123 wrote: »

I am not going to re post the comments by Person One but they are there, as I said, both Sam and GR picked her up for those posts.

I can't really add anything to my previous post, aside from saying that whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion, others are entitled to comment and cry foul when that insidiously undermines mothers who do not fit their ideal. From a personal perspective I never had any angst about how my children were fed, it was a non issue, they were fed, loved and nurtured, and have grown up happy and healthy. So, the breast v bottle is irrelevant to me from that standpoint. Had I not read the other thread I probably would have been out of this one way back, but I did, and it struck me forceably that bottle feeding is still seen as undesirable.

Some of the opinion on here, and the thanks for that opinion, has astounded me....formula on prescription, must breastfeed etc etc. All those posts were thanked, go back and look. So much for choice and the right of a woman to choose.

If you really can't see the underlying inferences behind some (not all)posts from those who advocate breastfeeding, then you perhaps don't want to see it.

No I am not into reading 'into' posts I prefer to take a post at face value and only interpret the actual words in front of me.

FatVonD

melb wrote: »

I wish they would just admit that they want to keep their children as babies for as long as possible instead of enjoying seeing them progressing and becoming independent. I think it's a bit sad really.

Trust me, if that was the case I would admit it, I've admitted to being lazy which I think is far more open to criticism! My son was perfectly independent, he drank juice from a cup, he ate a much more varied diet than most toddlers, he walked at 10 months and around 1 year was scooting around the toddler group on a ride-on horse.

Poet So, once your child was eating a balanced diet you were still giving him milk because children need more calcium than adults. You continued giving him cow's milk because that was your choice, breast feeding mothers continue with breast milk because that is their choice. Breast milk changes according to length of suckling, the fore milk is more of a drink than the hind milk which is the filling stuff so if a toddler is breast feeding for short periods only then they aren't feeding twice.

PS I recall the thread from the mum with the premature baby (the start at least, I didn't read through until the end) and everybody was very supportive and Meritaten was one of the very first to offer her support.

POPPYOSCAR

lostinrates wrote: »

I agree but, and there is always a but.....some people feel the same about issues we as a nation have accepted we need social services to step in for,.....

For example, for some their happy healthy and discipline home is to others a repressive and unhealthy one. For some their liberal, child lead home is entirely welfare lead, for others it might be failing to prepare children for aworld in which they ate adult. If we don 't explore why people feel the way they do we are denied the opportunity to see things from a different point of view...so in that sense these things always matter a bit to me, while intrinsically I believe in free choice and diversity in approach
.

So are you saying that the fact that some children are breastfed beyond the 'norm' should be looked into?

RubyRue

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Yes I read that. I do not happen to agree with her but I still do not equate this as her saying that bottlefeeding makes for a 'bad' mother etc.

For what its worth I don't think that is what she meant either, the issue for me was that it seemed to be advocating the removal of choice for how a parent can feed their child or how a woman can use her body. We certainly wouldn't accept it if it were the other way round.

The person who tried to infer that bottle feeding was on par with smoking did come across to me that by bottle feeding you were doing a bad thing.. but maybe that is how I read it. :rotfl:

toomanyshoesfortwofeet

melb wrote: »

I wish they would just admit that they want to keep their children as babies for as long as possible instead of enjoying seeing them progressing and becoming independent. I think it's a bit sad really.

This is a naive assumption that works solely on the logic that breastfeeding is for babies only, to some extent the very concept of 'extended breastfeeding' also operates on this logic.

If we move to a position where you consider breastfeeding as suitable for children - which is how it works in this house - there is simply no reason to assume that a breastfed toddler is babied. My ds2 is not my baby, he is my toddler and his spirit for independence and the opportunities I afford to him to express it, are in no way limited by breastfeeding. I think it seems silly to even suggest it but then perhaps you have to see it in action.

meher

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Yes I read that. I do not happen to agree with her but I still do not equate this as her saying that bottlefeeding makes for a 'bad' mother etc.

true, what she says is worse - she's saying that the mother should be dictated to

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

No I am not into reading 'into' posts I prefer to take a post at face value and only interpret the actual words in front of me.

that's just sophistry but I don' understand what you're trying to tell poet, the point of your post

and even before you finished that sentence you went on to 'reading into posts' by the looks:

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

So are you saying that the fact that some children are breastfed beyond the 'norm' should be looked into?