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Southeastern Railway charge me £20 penalty fare

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  • rdwarr
    rdwarr Posts: 6,159 Forumite
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    Stigy, please do not upset Bonnie and Clyde by posting facts. It's the last thing they want to see.
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  • Gordon_Hose
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    Wow. Still trolling.
  • what a great post candy so many truths that the toc wouldn't want the general public to know. as you said scaremongering by toc employees
    ilovecandy wrote: »
    almost impossible to prove as long as you aren't dumb enough to skip the train without £20 in your pocket and are prepared to plead your case. This would only occur if you are that stupid to admit to fare evasion.

    just to add to that great fact of a statement is that the toc always tricks you into dropping yourself in it and giving them the -intent- they require for a court case.

    if questioned by a revenue type person just give them your name and address nothing else thats all they can ask by law. when they send you the letter that your off to court and -whats your side of the story- send it back with an excuse but dont admit anything. they only do people who make it ease and cheap by admitting intent.
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  • what a great post candy so many truths that the toc wouldn't want the general public to know. as you said scaremongering by toc employees
    100% agree mate! Glad you stumbled on this post or I would have given up days ago. These TOC employees make me sick it wouldn't surprise me if they are paid to post this stuff on forum posts to deter people from skipping. Imagine if everybody in the country for one day just decided to skip the train in protest at the fares we pay which are 10 times higher than some European countries and effectively price the little man out of travelling around our great country.
    just to add to that great fact of a statement is that the toc always tricks you into dropping yourself in it and giving them the -intent- they require for a court case.
    I have only ever heard of a handful of cases where someone has been prosecuted and that is because they are dumb enough to admit fare evasion as long as you stick to your story the burden of proof is on them. just always carry an emergency 20-25 pounds with a good lie and you are laughing all the way to the bank.
    if questioned by a revenue type person just give them your name and address nothing else thats all they can ask by law. when they send you the letter that your off to court and -whats your side of the story- send it back with an excuse but dont admit anything. they only do people who make it ease and cheap by admitting intent.
    the guy i spoke to literally said if you pay the £20 you don't have to give your name and address you only have to if you don't have the £20 on you. But yea if you do get a total jobs worth give your real name and address and stick to your story and you will receive the fine in the post they will not prosecute unless you are silly enough to directly admit to fare evasion.
  • rdwarr
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    It's a little known fact that Princess Diana was murdered by undercover employees of FirstGreatWestern.
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  • Stigy
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    Oh please, is it pure chance that you're as stupid, illiterate and naive as each other, lol.
  • Stigy wrote: »
    Oh please, is it pure chance that you're as stupid, illiterate and naive as each other, lol.

    Gordon Hose and rdwarr are not that illiterate, leave them alone.
  • Stigy
    Stigy Posts: 1,581 Forumite
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    ilovecandy wrote: »
    Gordon Hose and rdwarr are not that illiterate, leave them alone.
    I think we all know who I'm talking about, don't we?

    Anyway, most people in this thread have the right idea and it's clear that both you and Geordie_Taxi don't. Good night. :beer:
  • ilovecandy
    ilovecandy Posts: 60 Forumite
    edited 18 January 2012 at 12:21AM
    Stigy wrote: »
    I think we all know who I'm talking about, don't we?

    Anyway, most people in this thread have the right idea and it's clear that both you and Geordie_Taxi don't. Good night. :beer:

    I think you are the troll with multiple TOC accounts. I also think you are terrible at getting your point across without being offensive, very immature and by the way your are not as intelligent as you think you are.

    Good night
  • giraffe69
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    edited 18 January 2012 at 11:28AM
    I am not even saying that i will always skip the train or that i will skip the train as i am an honest person.

    A new definition of honest is on the horizon.

    Further evidence that both of these users maybe one and the same is that they both have an inability to distinguish there difference between there and their/You're and your but then I think trolls originally come from Norway so may not be fully bilingual
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