MSE Newborn to 1 year Baby Club 1

moneypenny21

Thanks Gilly.

Ikkle - I haven't yet - I thought I was block feeding last night but I'd misunderstood Kira's post in the haze of sleep deprivation and wasn't doing it right, I will definitely give it a go tonight.

We have a burpy baby after a feed so I feel like we should wind her after every feed, she occasionally sicks a bit of milk up too which is why I don't like putting her straight down after a feed, but this of course wakes her up - I feel like if we could put her down when she is punch drunk after a feed and not have to wind her it would be better but I'm worried about her being sick in the basket so always wind her. Is it actually safe just to put them straight down even if they are sick?

gizmodo_2

moneypenny21 wrote: »

After reading the replies to Bamama I wonder if I'd be better off expressing through the night and feeding her from a bottle? Would she get the hind milk more easily then?

I do wonder if thats whats happening, she is only getting the foremilk? She only stays on about 20 minutes maximum then falls fast asleep (usually more like 10 minutes in the night), gets winded and wakes up - I'd assumed that the milk would be all gone from that breast so swap sides then feed her again. If I put her back on the same side, I guess thats when she gets the hind milk?

Hope you don't mind me jumping in...

If baby comes off a breast, try re-offering the same breast. The foremilk tastes nicer and sweeter which is why they prefer it, but the hind milk is fattier and more filling but not as sweet. So persevere with the same breast.

For the average woman 20 minutes is about right on each breast to get to the hind milk. For me my left would empty in 5-10 minutes (such low supply), but my right would feed her for half hour (I had uneven boobs lol).

Also are you feeding off the side that you last used first?

E.g baby feeds from left breast, and you also switch to right breast. Next feed, start from right breast.
Or baby feeds from just left breast and doesn't take any from right. Next feed start with left breast.
This can help ensure they get more hind milk.

Sorry if I've just repeated what others have said I did kind of jump in!

turtlemoose

Money penny please be aware that using a bottle can cause nipple confusion, causing baby to reject the breast in favour of the easier bottle. But some babies have bottle and breast and don't care! Just wanted you to make an informed choice.

moneypenny21

Thanks turtle moose at the moment she is a really good sucker & seems to know what to do, it's only the 2nd bottle we have tried but we have tried her with a dummy (just to settle then remove) and she seems to be ok at re latching on to the breast after that. I am wary of anything non breast in case she gets mixed up though thank you !

Gizmodo - I think that's what Kira was saying about ! Block feeding. Just trying her on the left again, that's the one she had a 10 minute feed from 2 hours ago. Would I then offer her the right even if she seems full or sleepy on the left?!

martafdz

Moneypenny, instead of winding her with pats on the back and sitting her, try to put her head on top of your chest, close to your shoulder, in an upright position against you, with her body cuddle against you. Hold the head with one hand and rub her back or pat very.softly with the other, she should burp just as well in this position and she might continue to sleep instead of waking up. Worth a try if you haven't done so before. Sometimes takes me over 20min to wind her (any position) and she just seems so uncomfy until she burps!!

Midwife was here before. She is now 3.505kg at 18 days, it's very good, so we've been discharged from midwives and referred now to health visitor. She's having a bit of a growth spurt, and today she's drinking 90ml bottles in one go during a feed, no stop!! I got annoyed that they also take with them the notes from hospital, I didn't know they were going to take the green notes on arrival to hospital, I'd have liked to keep info regarding my bump development, when she.engaged, etc. I missed the chance to copy them. This time, with the hospital notes, the same. I thought the paper with the info of the exact time she was born, the weight, duration of labor, etc, was for me, but the midwife took all the papers away!! So I made her wait whilst I scanned them. U want that, I still haven't got a freaking red book because they run out of them, I want something on paper to show my lo when she's older. Is that odd? Why don't they think of that and at least tell you to copy whatever you want before they take it away? Grrrr.

Bamama

Ok. I'm not looking for sympathy but I'm tired and stressed. I can't express any more often. Haven't even managed to do it with every feed really.

He's only taken to the breast properly once. Which was today. He stayed on for 5 min and nurse estimated he'd had about 15ml. I popped out to get nipple shields as she is the second nurse to suggest them.

He's sleepy due to his meds so I understand that he may not take a full feed but it's frustrating to see him fall asleep but know he's still hungry!

Gonna try again with the shields now.

moneypenny21

Bamama you are doing an amazing job!! Live in the knowledge that it will get easier one day whether this week or this month, it won't always be like this xxx are the nipple shields to help him or you? I'd have been lost without the lanisoh cream to protect my nipples it's really good. Keep going missis you are doing the best you can in crap circumstances xxxx

Gillyx

You have my whole sympathy Bamama, expressing is so difficult and stressful, your whole day revolves around sterilising the pump and bottles, feeding baba, expressing and start again. It feels like there is no time for anything else, which is part of the reason I gave up, as I just didn't feel I was having any time with my son how long will he need his medication for? In general they can be sleepy and drop off a lot when they're actually hungry, especially if confronted with the boob, as it's such a big comfort to them.

Be good to yourself, take it easy as much as you xxxx

jenjade

Happy new year everyone 2012 has been a horrid year for me I am so looking forward to it being over. Welcome 2013 hope it is an amazing year for you all

turtlemoose

bamama I've been there, and I know it's awful. So tiring, so stressful, an endless cycle of express feed express feed and the occasional bit of sleep if you're lucky. You can only do what you can do, and please remember this won't be forever. Also there is a reason they use sleep deprivation as a form of torture,,,cuz that's what it is!!!

You say he fed directly from the breast today - that is fantastic!! It doesn't matter that it was 5 minutes, it was a successful latch and feed, therefore it's a cause for these : :j:T

I found that as my baby got better, he got stronger, and was able to feed better as time went on. To start with he didn't even really root for the nipple, just sort of laid his face on me and slept while we did skin to skin (with the milk just pouring out of me cuz he was there lol!!). But, like you, one day he managed 5 mins, and then he did again, and then twice in one day, and then for longer....and so on. He's 7 months this week and is now a little booby monster, pulls at my top and does the sign language for "milk" !! At the time i was in hospital woth him i felt like I would never get through it, but I did, and I'm so glad I did.

We will all support you here, whether you want to talk on the thread or pm, there's sooo much wisdom and support here, you will always find one of us to help or to listen xxx