Should I complain about this postie?....

Honeydog

jojo_2012 wrote: »

funny you should say that i have a cactus and a lemon geranium (which i incidentally do forget to water ), and the way he was lingering it did cross my mind. But i guess as the car was running he knew i was in

lol!

LisaB85

rustyboy21 wrote: »

My next door neighbours letterbox is viscious, I got my finger jammed yesterday posting their Xmas card.

When I was a kid I remember a few houses where the letter box would bite you x

arcon5

I really don't understand why him being in the porch is a big problem....

I now work in a job which requires me to knock on doors and am not going to stand outside the porch knocking knowing full well nobody will hear it. Instead will open the porch door, and knock on the inside door. Whether it's suspicious or not depends on the posties mannerisms. But him sayin 'oh' and walking away seems normal to me, what more should he say? In honesty I cannot imagine many people saying no to a postie using the loo, so he may have been surprised. I would never say no, afterall where else are they supposed to go whilst working outdoors?

A charge of £10 reasonable to use a loo? Sounds like a random number plucked out of thin air too me. Aswell as stingy!

And the person who implied ops comments to be of racist nature.... get a grip!! It was clear his race was of no relevance to ops concern, it seems to me more of a side comment meant in gest. How this in any way caused offense or implied discrimination is beyond me. Sort yourself out!

somethingsgottogive

Most houses I know of with a porch use the porch as an extension of the house, with the door of the porch as the 'front door' with a bell on the outer wall - as in visitors ring the bell, home owner opens the inner door and then the porch door to let visitor in.

Also, porches I know of have a letter box in the door so a postman would have no need to open said door even if they HAD letters to post.

if the op's house is like this, with the porch acting as a small extension to her home, and the postman had no reason to be in her porch AT ALL (and could have rang the bell on the OUTSIDE if he'd needed the loo) i can completely understand why she'd be freaked out and would definitely be wary in future.

goodz

ThumbRemote wrote: »

So why did he let himself into her porch, instead of knocking on the outer door?

C_Mababejive wrote: »

I do think it is odd that he was calling to your door for a pee when he had no letters for you.

somethingsgottogive wrote: »

Most houses I know of with a porch use the porch as an extension of the house, with the door of the porch as the 'front door' with a bell on the outer wall - as in visitors ring the bell, home owner opens the inner door and then the porch door to let visitor in.

Also, porches I know of have a letter box in the door so a postman would have no need to open said door even if they HAD letters to post.

if the op's house is like this, with the porch acting as a small extension to her home, and the postman had no reason to be in her porch AT ALL (and could have rang the bell on the OUTSIDE if he'd needed the loo) i can completely understand why she'd be freaked out and would definitely be wary in future.

Sounds well dodgy to me. I'd be horrified if I found some bloke lurking in my porch.

Then the awkwardness is a give away. If he was there genuinely he wouldn't be awkward. Probably. Well, I wouldn't be - but I wouldn't be lurking in someone's porch anyway, that's not something I'd do.

Asking to use the loo when caught and confronted sounds like a lie and a ruse to me, that's not how normal people or posties behave at all.

Yes, I think you've likely possibly/probably got a crim there, an opportunist of some sort, possibly a burglar - or something worse, but I won't speculate on what else it could be, I'm sure you can imagine other possibilities.

On the other hand maybe not, it's hard to be sure. It could perhaps be just foolish and antisocial behaviour by a twit and nothing more sinister than that.

But having been attacked and ripped off and defrauded a lot over the years it's a long time since I've been willing to believe any dodgy stories off dodgy types caught in the act of being dodgy.

Nope, no chance, zero tolerance and guilty as sin, got guilt written all over them, unless and until proven innocent or otherwise, are my policies.

By being cautious and not taking any risks or believing anything they say - and by trying to stay a step or two ahead of the crims and loonies I've managed to avoid and save myself from a lot of crime and grief over the years.

Criminals and criminal behaviour are endemic, universal, rampant, commonplace, everywhere in UK all the time. I live on a frontline in a notorious crime ghetto in London and we get vast amounts of violence, burglary, robbery, mugging, rapes, con artists, fraudsters, fake charity collectors etc all the time. Police, courts and government continue to ignore the problem and continue to fail to act to stop it. The crime problem is massive.

Whether it's worth reporting it, or viable to do so. Hmm, tricky. Then he'll probably know it's you who reported him. But what if he's a crim up to no good elsewhere as well. And you do nothing and he's just getting away with it, whatever he's up to, if he is up to anything. What about old people and anyone else.

But also what if he's not up to anything. It'd be a shame to dump him in it if in fact he's just a bumbling antisocial idiot and, despite the dodgy lurking in your porch, was in fact about to knock on the door or ring the bell to ask for the bog.

Except that that's out of order, you don't just go around asking strangers to use their bog, that's bang out of order. I've never done that, I hurriedly walk half a mile or a mile till I find some discreet bushes in a park on the rare occasions that I get caught short in public, I would never try to get into someone's house, and especially not if I know it's a solo woman, that's an outrageous notion. I don't think that was true, anyway, I think that was a blatant lie. Yes, the more I think about this the worse it sounds, actually. I think he's a wrong'un and you caught him bang to rights.

But then I've experienced the wrong end of a lot of bad crime over the years so I do tend to take early avoiding action all the time regarding anything and everything. I don't take risks, if it looks dodgy then that's it, I'm on the case doing something about it, I don't just leave it and hope that it's not dodgy. Because often it is.

So do you have a bell on the outside door? If you do then that could be considered a clincher, he didn't ring the bell, he instead came into the porch. Which would rather suggest that he was up to no good.

Plus you're a single woman so that does add an extra level to bear in mind.

Hmm, tricky. Would I report it or not. Sorry, not sure, dunno.

Little cameras are as cheap as twenty or even just a tenner or less these days so maybe put one of them up, see if you can catch him doing it again or anything else. Plus he'll know you've got the porch on camera so that's a bit of a deterent, a bit, not much, but better than nothing. In view of this little incident that's what I might do now. Better than nothing. Even if part of it was just to satisfy myself that I've done something about it, that's valid as well, that's a bit of a help. Won't cost much or take much effort and possibly could make some difference. Or all the difference in fact. Could be the difference between more stuff possibly happening or nothing happening. Worth considering, maybe discuss it with your bloke and see what he thinks about the idea. Maybe he'll do you a favour and go and get one and then stick it up for you.

Has the outer door got a letterbox in it and can you lock it easily? If so then perhaps do so from now on. If it hasn't already got a letter box then could you get one fitted without too much effort or cost. In your position this is probably what I'd consider doing now. Then there wouldn't be any further opportunity for lurking so that part of the problem would be solved. Bit of a nuisance but possibly better than just leaving it as it is. Maybe, that's for you to decide.

Have you got neighbourhood watch in your area? If so then it might be worth tipping them off with your misgivings so that everyone can be on the look out for this character in case he is up to no good.

Right, that's lots I've said about this, so I'm going to leave it for now and clear my head of it and think about something a bit less dodgy.

And, well I never, it's actually Christmas day now. So despite this little surprise you've had I hope you can mostly just forget about it and have a nice time. I hope my going on about this here hasn't bothered you, but you have done this thread asking what people think, so this is my analysis of it and I hope it's of use and not just bothersome. If it is bothersome, well, sorry, and all I can say is good luck with whatever you decide. All the best, Merry Crimbo.

baza52

oh god, a blackish person in your porch which was closed by yourself....
I would not be suprised if he were a drug dealer, pervert ,rapist or worse.
Turning up on a young womans doorstep like that.

He is clearly a criminal cos your a young woman, Id ring the police.
Would you not feel uncomfortable if you were caught short and a couple acused you of being either of the above?

If you think you may get compo then go for it....
Otherwise just put it behind you.

rustyboy21

goodz wrote: »

Sounds well dodgy to me. I'd be horrified if I found some bloke lurking in my porch.

Then the awkwardness is a give away. If he was there genuinely he wouldn't be awkward. Probably. Well, I wouldn't be - but I wouldn't be lurking in someone's porch anyway, that's not something I'd do.

Asking to use the loo when caught and confronted sounds like a lie and a ruse to me, that's not how normal people or posties behave at all.

Yes, I think you've likely possibly/probably got a crim there, an opportunist of some sort, possibly a burglar - or something worse, but I won't speculate on what else it could be, I'm sure you can imagine other possibilities.

On the other hand maybe not, it's hard to be sure. It could perhaps be just foolish and antisocial behaviour by a twit and nothing more sinister than that.

But having been attacked and ripped off and defrauded a lot over the years it's a long time since I've been willing to believe any dodgy stories off dodgy types caught in the act of being dodgy.

Nope, no chance, zero tolerance and guilty as sin, got guilt written all over them, unless and until proven innocent or otherwise, are my policies.

By being cautious and not taking any risks or believing anything they say - and by trying to stay a step or two ahead of the crims and loonies I've managed to avoid and save myself from a lot of crime and grief over the years.

Criminals and criminal behaviour are endemic, universal, rampant, commonplace, everywhere in UK all the time. I live on a frontline in a notorious crime ghetto in London and we get vast amounts of violence, burglary, robbery, mugging, rapes, con artists, fraudsters, fake charity collectors etc all the time. Police, courts and government continue to ignore the problem and continue to fail to act to stop it. The crime problem is massive.

Whether it's worth reporting it, or viable to do so. Hmm, tricky. Then he'll probably know it's you who reported him. But what if he's a crim up to no good elsewhere as well. And you do nothing and he's just getting away with it, whatever he's up to, if he is up to anything. What about old people and anyone else.

But also what if he's not up to anything. It'd be a shame to dump him in it if in fact he's just a bumbling antisocial idiot and, despite the dodgy lurking in your porch, was in fact about to knock on the door or ring the bell to ask for the bog.

Except that that's out of order, you don't just go around asking strangers to use their bog, that's bang out of order. I've never done that, I hurriedly walk half a mile or a mile till I find some discreet bushes in a park on the rare occasions that I get caught short in public, I would never try to get into someone's house, and especially not if I know it's a solo woman, that's an outrageous notion. I don't think that was true, anyway, I think that was a blatant lie. Yes, the more I think about this the worse it sounds, actually. I think he's a wrong'un and you caught him bang to rights.

But then I've experienced the wrong end of a lot of bad crime over the years so I do tend to take early avoiding action all the time regarding anything and everything. I don't take risks, if it looks dodgy then that's it, I'm on the case doing something about it, I don't just leave it and hope that it's not dodgy. Because often it is.

So do you have a bell on the outside door? If you do then that could be considered a clincher, he didn't ring the bell, he instead came into the porch. Which would rather suggest that he was up to no good.

Plus you're a single woman so that does add an extra level to bear in mind.

Hmm, tricky. Would I report it or not. Sorry, not sure, dunno.

Little cameras are as cheap as twenty or even just a tenner or less these days so maybe put one of them up, see if you can catch him doing it again or anything else. Plus he'll know you've got the porch on camera so that's a bit of a deterent, a bit, not much, but better than nothing. In view of this little incident that's what I might do now. Better than nothing. Even if part of it was just to satisfy myself that I've done something about it, that's valid as well, that's a bit of a help. Won't cost much or take much effort and possibly could make some difference. Or all the difference in fact. Could be the difference between more stuff possibly happening or nothing happening. Worth considering, maybe discuss it with your bloke and see what he thinks about the idea. Maybe he'll do you a favour and go and get one and then stick it up for you.

Has the outer door got a letterbox in it and can you lock it easily? If so then perhaps do so from now on. If it hasn't already got a letter box then could you get one fitted without too much effort or cost. In your position this is probably what I'd consider doing now. Then there wouldn't be any further opportunity for lurking so that part of the problem would be solved. Bit of a nuisance but possibly better than just leaving it as it is. Maybe, that's for you to decide.

Have you got neighbourhood watch in your area? If so then it might be worth tipping them off with your misgivings so that everyone can be on the look out for this character in case he is up to no good.

Right, that's lots I've said about this, so I'm going to leave it for now and clear my head of it and think about something a bit less dodgy.

And, well I never, it's actually Christmas day now. So despite this little surprise you've had I hope you can mostly just forget about it and have a nice time. I hope my going on about this here hasn't bothered you, but you have done this thread asking what people think, so this is my analysis of it and I hope it's of use and not just bothersome. If it is bothersome, well, sorry, and all I can say is good luck with whatever you decide. All the best, Merry Crimbo.

AAaah. Just what I needed, a lovely cheerful post for Christmas ! lol

OP Hope Santa has delivered a Taser Gun in your stocking tonight, you can't trust anyone anymore according to poster.

Especially someone of Foreign Extraction. Must be Al Quieda, or Somali Pirate.

Don't posties go through a Criminal records check? After all they are delivering confidential correspondance.

The Guy was desperate for a Pee ! He was most probably looking shifty, due to embarrasement. It was either ask to use your loo, or p*ss in your garden. I know which I would ask for.

goodz

rustyboy21 wrote: »

AAaah. Just what I needed, a lovely cheerful post for Christmas ! lol.

Yes, if you have any company later today you can read it all out to them to give them that heart warming glow of Christmas. A sort of alternative Christmas message, more fun than Corky.

rustyboy21 wrote: »

OP Hope Santa has delivered a Taser Gun in your stocking tonight, you can't trust anyone anymore according to poster.

Mmm, that's an odd idea, except that they're illegal in UK, so I'm afraid I'll have to take a rain check on this occasion, but thanks for the thought anyway. Sorry, Satan Claws (I'm dyslexic), not allowed, but ta for trying. Shame you didn't read my postcard with my requests that I sent to the North Pole. Oh well. C'est la vie.

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Especially someone of Foreign Extraction. Must be Al Quieda, or Somali Pirate.

You have a lively imagination.

But watch out doing talk like that here otherwise you'll likely have various people accusing you of being a racist, which, as you can see, has already happened on this thread a few times.

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Don't posties go through a Criminal records check? After all they are delivering confidential correspondance.

Probably, but that wouldn't have much or any relevance to this incident. Lots of CRB checked people get caught doing lots of crime all the time everywhere.

rustyboy21 wrote: »

The Guy was desperate for a Pee ! He was most probably looking shifty, due to embarrasement. It was either ask to use your loo, or p*ss in your garden. I know which I would ask for.

No, he's obviously a burglar, a sex maniac, a stalker, a kidnapper, a loony and a serial killer, but not necessarily in that order. They all are. It's a well known fact, it's on the telly and in the rags all the time. Everyone's a deranged psychopath these days, there aren't any normal people left any more, everyone's gone completely potty mad. Except me, of course, I'm the only sane one left. And my voices in my head completely agree with me about this. So that confirms it.

C_Mababejive

OK...the guy is a postie but had no mail for this lady.....yet he went knocking on her door.

he bit about hoping to use her facilities doesnt ring true. Wanting a pee is not normally an immediate thing unless he has some kind of affliction.

Perhaps he ,in all innocence,quite liked the lady and was about to ask her for a date....but then it got awkward.

Either way,,i would put it down to experience and keep my outer door locked.

I will just ad that as a house caller myself...i do sometimes have to open the outer door and knock on the inner because either there is no bell,it isnt working or it isnt heard...

If i were delivering something, i would do the same...why..?

Because i would want to use my best endeavors to deliver the item
I am there with good and lawful intent

I am not a delivery person and often my need to enter is much more..ermm..imminent but the same principles apply.

This postie had no reason to be there. He did not have a letter or package.

If i were in his position..i would have looked out for a public place with toilets..i.e garage,supermarket ,whatever.

I doubt i'd knock on and ask a customer unless i had a specific need to knock and hand over a package,in which case,my request would form part of the normal exchange..

EycplUK

How can you " live alone " if your son lives with you ??