Halfords child seats

babybimbles

natalie1974

A bit like the "experts" in H*lfords that will kindly fit your car seat for you so you end up with buckle crunch or another favourite is saying " yes , thats ok for the seat to slide sideways !" . All seats should be securely fitted with minimal if not any movement at all (sideways or forwards) .

littlesos

natalie1974 wrote:

The Jane Indy Plus IS an Isofix seat . All Isofix seats rely on you still having to harness your child in by either the integral harness or the adult seat belt . Isofix just refers to the way the car seat itself is fixed into the car , if its an Isofix seat you use the Isofix points in the car to attach the seat to the actual car , if it a non-Isofix seat you use the 5 point/lap belt to hold the car seat onto the seat of the car .

I am NOT a halfords seat fitter, I have worked in crash safety for 13 years now and I was correct in the things I was saying

this is direct from Janes own website.....

"In the case of INDY Plus chair, we must remark that it is NOT an "ISOfix" retention system, as defined in Regulation 44/04. The INDY Plus chair is a chair for groups 2 and 3, which bases the user safety on the three points adult belt, and it has been approved on these terms.

The INDY Plus rigid fixations are an added value to the system safety. When they are connected to the car ISOfix, they make the folding of the backrest easier, increase the stability in bends, improve the results in lateral impacts, and retain the chair when it is empty. Everything without affecting the other aspects of safety."

maplegirl2011

surely it's still better to have a sturdier seat though. i would have thought it gave the child more protection if it was attached via the isofix route aswell

pingua

I do not think our car has these isofix points. Can they be added??

molerat

pingua wrote:

I do not think our car has these isofix points. Can they be added??

No, Isofix cannot be retro-fitted.

natalie1974

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This is where your statement was taken from , the Spanish website . The seat IS fixed into the car using the ISOFIX points if you have them in your car , if not you use it in the normal way , just place the seat on the car seat and use the adult belt . Yes it has been safety tested using just the adult seat belt route but if you want even more stability to the seat you can use the Isofix points . http://www.johnstonprams.co.uk/item804.htm

It quite clearly shows a photo of the Isofix points on the Indy Plus Seat and clearly states the "The Indy Plus has the same specs as the Indy but also includes Isofix & adjustable armrests" .

b1g1an

molerat wrote:

No, Isofix cannot be retro-fitted.

Can in some cars so best to check.

linzz_2

natalie1974 wrote:

anyone know how these score safety wise?

They don't score very well at all ! The Graco one is one of the worst ones . PM me for a copy of the latest Which report . And IMO I would leave the 2 1/2 year old in the M & P Protec or get something like the Britax Evolva 123 Ultra with a built in harness . I am having trouble with my internet connection at the minute so if I don't get back to you immediately don't worry

HTH

Natalie

Hi
Have PM you. Could you send me a copy of that report too please.

molerat

b1g1an wrote:

Can in some cars so best to check.

As I understand it Isofix can only be retro-fitted to cars that were designed to have it fitted and the option was not taken at delivery. There is no universal Isofix retrofit system.

An interesting test report from 2003 quotes that Isofix is no safer than a correctly fitted conventional seat. It's main advantage is that it takes away the margin of error by making it virtually impossible to incorrectly fit the seat.