The Work Programme New Thread

looby75

I have absolutely no problem with the WP sending my details/talking to potential employers about me, in fact I hope they do. If they help me get a job then I will not be withdrawing my consent and they will have earned any payment. And employers will know what they are dealing with and be ready for the WP advisors to contact them.

So far they have not helped me though, at this point any job I get will have been through my own efforts only and I'm worried that they will "jump on the band waggon" so to speak and hassle my employer to the extent that they get fed up and decide I'm not worth the hassle. So the day I get a job offer (from my own efforts) I'll be withdrawing my consent.

LadyMissA

john539 wrote: »

Not in the WP consent form on last page of this document

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/pg-chapter-5.pdf

The DWP has gone to great trouble to create this consent form.

Future employer is not random people or ones I have applied to it's people who have offered you a job or ones the WP contact direct to get you a job.

Where does it say I give consent to the employer who I have applied to , to gie info out on me and my application.

You are getting this all twisted as donnajunkie is not talking about the form you sign when you go to the WP

out of cash is the one who said about the consent form but we are talking that if I show them a list of companies I have applied to real jobs at they can not call them and interfear in my application this has nothing to do with the consent form as that is us giving the wp consent to send our cv to people not get involved with applications

jayne30

When I joined Pertemps provider there were 3 different consent forms needing a signature. One for when you find a job and allowing provider to contact employer for outcome. One to share information between third parties and DWP and the last one to allow provider to send your CV to employers. Didn't sign any of them.


Poster above I am currently midway through complaints procedure against my 1st provider as I was due to start a job then the employer changed their mind because they had phone calls and also a outcome form to fill in, and thats when I didn't sign the consent form. So I think this providers will be issued with a fine just a shame I receive no compensation after all its me still stuck on the work programme and all because they breached my data and cost me a job.

KevInChester

I was reading some handouts on interview techniques earlier, as well as finding out they've been plagiarised I have to admit I laughed out loud at this suggestion:

If you have had heart trouble and the interviewer is concerned about your ability you could offer to lift a suitable piece of furniture in the office or mention that you frequently carry a portable television or the shopping etc.

(Is it only me that thinks that is absurd?)

LadyMissA

jayne30 wrote: »

When I joined Pertemps provider there were 3 different consent forms needing a signature. One for when you find a job and allowing provider to contact employer for outcome. One to share information between third parties and DWP and the last one to allow provider to send your CV to employers. Didn't sign any of them.


Poster above I am currently midway through complaints procedure against my 1st provider as I was due to start a job then the employer changed their mind because they had phone calls and also a outcome form to fill in, and thats when I didn't sign the consent form. So I think this providers will be issued with a fine just a shame I receive no compensation after all its me still stuck on the work programme and all because they breached my data and cost me a job.

you got a job offer and signed off and then they withdrew the offer beacuse the provider contacted them?

If you haven't signed any consent forms then they have no right to do that and you have lost a job over it.

Have you complained to the Independant Case Examiner?

http://www.ind-case-exam.org.uk/

Write to Iain Duncan Smith on alambridesl@parliament.uk
and Chris Grayling on chris.grayling.mp@parliament.uk and complain too

john539

LadyMissA wrote: »

Future employer is not random people or ones I have applied to it's people who have offered you a job or ones the WP contact direct to get you a job.

Where does it say I give consent to the employer who I have applied to , to gie info out on me and my application.

You are getting this all twisted as donnajunkie is not talking about the form you sign when you go to the WP

out of cash is the one who said about the consent form but we are talking that if I show them a list of companies I have applied to real jobs at they can not call them and interfear in my application this has nothing to do with the consent form as that is us giving the wp consent to send our cv to people not get involved with applications

I'm not sure if we're getting our wires crossed.

All I'm saying is, the WP providers don't have consent to contact employers about your job applications through that DWP consent form, which I think outofcash & maybe DJ were saying.

That consent form is for a very specific purpose.

I don't think they have consent to contact employers about your job applications, unless you've signed some other forms.

Ps: from jayne30's post, looks like some people have been asked to sign other consent forms.

LadyMissA

john539 wrote: »

I'm not sure if we're getting our wires crossed.

All I'm saying is, the WP providers don't have consent to contact employers about your job applications through that DWP consent form, which I think outofcash & maybe DJ were saying.

That consent form is for a very specific purpose.

I don't think they have consent to contact employers about your job applications, unless you've signed some other forms.

Ps: from jayne30's post, looks like some people have been asked to sign other consent forms.

No outofcash said I had given consent and dj says I havent and of course I haven't as the form was not for the WP to get involved in your applications you have made nor are the people you have applied to allowed to talk to the wp about you as I have not given consent for them to do so since they have not offered me a job.

jayne30

LadyMissA wrote: »

you got a job offer and signed off and then they withdrew the offer beacuse the provider contacted them?

If you haven't signed any consent forms then they have no right to do that and you have lost a job over it.

Have you complained to the Independant Case Examiner?

http://www.ind-case-exam.org.uk/

Write to Iain Duncan Smith on [EMAIL="alambridesl@parliament.uk"]alambridesl@parliament.uk[/EMAIL]
and Chris Grayling on [EMAIL="chris.grayling.mp@parliament.uk"]chris.grayling.mp@parliament.uk[/EMAIL] and complain too

I had not signed off I was going to do that on the Monday as the job had hours where I finished at 3.
Anyway on the Saturday before this had a letter from employer saying they had been contacted numerous times from someone asking about me and also they sent them a outcome form which the employer kindly forwarded me so I have it on my computer if the Providers try to deny all knowledge.
I asked for the complaints procedure from Serco so I do it correctly. After sending letter to providers main office I had a reply saying its under investigation and I am to expect a reply by this Friday. After that if I am not happy which I won't be the complaints manager from Serco gets involved then the next step is ICE.
Thanks for them email addresses I will inform them. All this WP has done for me is cost me a job and sending me on full day courses so I am hampered in finding another.

November5th

KevInChester wrote: »

I was reading some handouts on interview techniques earlier, as well as finding out they've been plagiarised I have to admit I laughed out loud at this suggestion:

If you have had heart trouble and the interviewer is concerned about your ability you could offer to lift a suitable piece of furniture in the office or mention that you frequently carry a portable television or the shopping etc.

(Is it only me that thinks that is absurd?)

Absurd, funny, and playing out the scenario in my mind, a bit sad!
Perhaps you could offer your interviewer a piggy back round the car park...

KevInChester

November5th wrote: »

Absurd, funny, and playing out the scenario in my mind, a bit sad!
Perhaps you could offer your interviewer a piggy back round the car park...

Oh you've read it too? Think that was on the next page, lol

I scanned a copy and have uploaded it online if anybody fancies looking at what apparently passes for good interview techniques training. Remember they are getting paid good money to provide this.... oh and this is how it looks, and not my bad scanning (pictures are a murky mess, and the pages are a bit wonky).

Will place a couple of pages here as pics:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/761/interviewtechniques1.jpg

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/8231/interviewtechniques2.jpg > yes this was on a seperate page, this 'information' was also repeated on different pages for no apparent reason

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7750/interviewtechniques3.jpg

http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2583/interviewtechniques4.png > "Can you work flexible hours if and when called for" "Yes with a little prior notice work place"