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out_of_cash

out_of_cash wrote: »

Find out who your MP is and complain like hell.Speaking to the provider about this probably wont get you no-where.I agree its a total waste of time these superficial courses that back in the real world wont get you anywhere,including the hourly rates of pay on offer.

If you go sick,its tough crap on them.Your entitled to the 14 days or is it 10 working days.I wonder what bright spark in goverment got that as a defined time for sickness in the uk:T when someones really sick and those providers and half wits in goverment start to make an issue with the sanctions rule,the !!!! will hit the fan in one way or another.

out_of_cash

donnajunkie wrote: »

surely anyone you send an application to would be breaking the law if they disclose info to a cold caller(the provider).

If you signed the original data consent form, then they can do this, if you didnt, they could be put in deep crap with a fine to match.:j

LadyMissA

out_of_cash wrote: »

If you signed the original data consent form, then they can do this, if you didnt, they could be put in deep crap with a fine to match.:j

No she means the people I have applied to can not talk about me as I never gave them consent only the WP

looby75

out_of_cash wrote: »

True, have this happening in my town.:j

same here which is why they are now doing phone appointments, they just don't have the capacity to deal with everyone who's getting referred to them.

john539

out_of_cash wrote: »

If you signed the original data consent form, then they can do this

No they can't.

The consent is only to validate an outcome payment claim between Provider & DWP with a future employer.

LadyMissA

john539 wrote: »

No they can't.

The consent is only to validate an outcome payment claim between Provider & DWP with a future employer.

No the consent form is so the provider can send your CV or get you interviews. With no consent forms they can't do this therefore are very limited with what they can do. Yes it also covers a payment but it starts with sharing you details.

donnajunkie

out_of_cash wrote: »

If you signed the original data consent form, then they can do this, if you didnt, they could be put in deep crap with a fine to match.:j

you are giving the provider permission to contact the employers but you arent giving the employers permission to disclose private information. especially over the phone.

looby75

donnajunkie wrote: »

you are giving the provider permission to contact the employers but you arent giving the employers permission to disclose private information. especially over the phone.

they are breaking that every which way possible at the one I have to go to then. The room we do job search in is the same one the advisors phone co's and clients as well as their other offices. I could give you the name of at least half a dozen people who are either starting a MWA are due to start one and the advisors are trying to find them a placement, are on one right now, who have signed off to go on ESA or who are starting a collage course.

Not heard about anyone who's signing off to start a job yet though

john539

LadyMissA wrote: »

No the consent form is so the provider can send your CV or get you interviews. With no consent forms they can't do this therefore are very limited with what they can do. Yes it also covers a payment but it starts with sharing you details.

Which consent form are you talking about ?

The WP consent form on last page of this document

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/pg-chapter-5.pdf

is only to validate an outcome payment claim between Provider & DWP with a future employer.

Yes, they are very limited in what they can do or should be doing.
Doesn't mean they might not try something they shouldn't.

john539

donnajunkie wrote: »

you are giving the provider permission to contact the employers but you arent giving the employers permission to disclose private information. especially over the phone.

Not in the WP consent form on last page of this document

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/pg-chapter-5.pdf

The DWP has gone to great trouble to create this consent form.