The Work Programme New Thread

BurnleyBob

Lith wrote: »

amazing....


I think it would be better if the UK just stopped all benefits... but if they did that ? i think crime will rise i don't know... UK needs to get tough


Take china as example no such thing as benefits if you don't work you die lol


This work program thing is an utter shambles i said it a while ago in this thread


THE WP won't make it to 2014

China has a welfare system.

With 85% of UK households in receipt of benefits then stopping them all would result in a revolution rather than a rise in crime.

Returning to China, Britain has more CCTV cameras than it has in spite of China's population being 21 times greater so the infrastructure is in situ to help contain serious social unrest.

CCTV Britain: Why are we the most spied on country in the world? - http://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/215388/CCTV-Britain-Why-are-we-the-most-spied-on-country-in-the-world

simson3325

Lith wrote: »

amazing....


I think it would be better if the UK just stopped all benefits... but if they did that ? i think crime will rise i don't know... UK needs to get tough


Take china as example no such thing as benefits if you don't work you die lol


This work program thing is an utter shambles i said it a while ago in this thread


THE WP won't make it to 2014

yea until you lost your job,then it would be an other story,

Lith

Chester666666 wrote: »

So your idea is to penalise people for needing benefits?

Not at all,

you know as well as i do a lot of people are just 'dossing' the whole benefits thing was a mistake i think its not nice to say it, but be interesting to see what happens if the UK cut everything lol

BurnleyBob wrote: »

China has a welfare system.

I can promise you... its not what you think man, i have friends in china (in fact im in china as i type this) and the welfare here is disgusting shouldn't even be called welfare... they have an old saying

'if you don't work you die' - simple as but i see your point though.

simson3325 wrote: »

yea until you lost your job,then it would be an other story,

Another story ? that story has come and gone my friend I've lost many jobs had really rough times !!!!!! happens but you gotta do what you gotta do in order to survive im sure you haven't been down that 'path' lets hope you don't.

donnajunkie

Lith wrote: »

Another story ? that story has come and gone my friend I've lost many jobs had really rough times !!!!!! happens but you gotta do what you gotta do in order to survive im sure you haven't been down that 'path' lets hope you don't.

so you didnt claim a penny?

Lith

donnajunkie wrote: »

so you didnt claim a penny?

First came on the JSA at 16 i was like !!!!!! is this and walked out the week after that was 10 years ago

rather get money from the old man or do labour work every penny counts being proactive cash in hand jobs.... its all about survival fella's

grai

Lith wrote: »

its all about survival

We are fortunate enough to have a slightly better human rights record in the UK than China

no rich civilised country could justify or have any real reason to have it's people just surviving in the gutter to appease the prejudices of the right wing

Everyone agrees the welfare system needs reform but fortunately very few British people of any political viewpoint would contemplate abolishing an affordable amount of benefits for the citizens just because some people are lazy

Lith

grai wrote: »

We are fortunate enough to have a slightly better human rights record in the UK than China

no rich civilised country could justify or have any real reason to have it's people just surviving in the gutter to appease the prejudices of the right wing

Everyone agrees the welfare system needs reform but fortunately very few British people of any political viewpoint would contemplate abolishing an affordable amount of benefits for the citizens just because some people are lazy

Indeed, then maybe an age limit?

Only 20/24 year olds can apply jsa? something needs to be done ... its a shame on our government ruining this fine country and you know what happens in 2014..... unless the government take action!

Who knows who knows...

donnajunkie

Lith wrote: »

First came on the JSA at 16 i was like !!!!!! is this and walked out the week after that was 10 years ago

rather get money from the old man or do labour work every penny counts being proactive cash in hand jobs.... its all about survival fella's

sometimes people try all those options and they dont work out.

Chester666666

donnajunkie wrote: »

sometimes people try all those options and they dont work out.

And there's many families who don't get on due to various reasons

System

Personally i think the work program is a waste of time. Pointless hours spend applying for jobs doing 'job search' when it takes half an hour and the time could be spent on something more beneficial. The program didn't help me find employment or gain more confidence in interviews (which i stated was one of my weaknesses). As well as that being moved around every 16-20 weeks didn't help either. The twice I've found employment its been though jobs I've found myself and not receiving any help from the providers, apart from the annoying phone calls after i'd found employment (commission?).