The Work Programme New Thread

Jerry_Mander

loony2012 wrote: »

So now The Work Programme is the same but it's not an "Employment Measure"

The FOI response from the DWP (https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/167181/response/406022/attach/html/3/3121%20Response.pdf.html) clearly states that the WP is an employment measure. So redirect them to that response and, if they disagree with it, ask them to show you the specific legislation which makes it clear that the WP is not an employment measure.

I think they're just trying it on, but you need to push them to provide the exact evidence to support their argument.

Please keep us informed as this is an important one.

leroy28

yeah mwa would be the last staw for me, thats where yoo work full time for free basicly isnt it, i dont mind them saying earn youre jobseekers by working the hours for nmw, wich would be about 2 hours a day to earn youre jobseekers, but i draw the line at slavery, id sighn of or blag that im too depressed to work and all that bolloks, if that what it comes to id have no choice

AP007

leroy28 wrote: »

yeah mwa would be the last staw for me, thats where yoo work full time for free basicly isnt it, i dont mind them saying earn youre jobseekers by working the hours for nmw, wich would be about 2 hours a day to earn youre jobseekers, but i draw the line at slavery, id sighn of or blag that im too depressed to work and all that bolloks, if that what it comes to id have no choice

geez spell check maybe?

donnajunkie

loony2012 wrote: »

They said they had regulation checked and it's correct. They said to me this morning that it's been changed for the

So now The Work Programme is the same but it's not an "Employment Measure"

How the F they work that out i will never know. Is there any way i can get some more info on it before i have my MWA appointment on Tuesday?
I don't want to be dumped on MWA again when i'm not supposed to be on it.

Wish i could afford to sign off cos JCP is PITA.

its sounds like a blind by science approach by them. it could be correct but we all have no way of knowing. you could seek advice from cab, welfare rights officer, solicitor etc. although it maybe better to just put up with it. so long as you dont break any rules that can get you sanctioned then approach the placement in a way thats best for you. they are not paying you so you dont owe them anything. so work as hard and as well as you want to without breaking any rules that would get you sanctioned.

donnajunkie

leroy28 wrote: »

yeah mwa would be the last staw for me, thats where yoo work full time for free basicly isnt it, i dont mind them saying earn youre jobseekers by working the hours for nmw, wich would be about 2 hours a day to earn youre jobseekers, but i draw the line at slavery, id sighn of or blag that im too depressed to work and all that bolloks, if that what it comes to id have no choice

you may find it isnt as bad as you are imagining. if you want them to benefit as little as possible rather than doing what you say here just dont talk yourself up by saying you are good at this or got qualifications in that etc. just say look i've not done this before or i'm not very good at this but i will try. that way if you arent very good they are less likely to hold it against you. then you can specialise in making as little money for them as possible.

grai

I'm off to a 3week something - or - other on Thursday which my post WP advisor couldn't even be bothered to explain to me when I asked him what it was about he just said it's to help you find work - this is what it has come down to - they are not even bothering to explain the stuff we are being subjected to - all part of the psychological wearing down to eventually get you to sign off through fair means or foul - they are just going to hassle and harass me

if nothing else they will have achieved their goal - I'll die of boredom in one of these silly "classes"

AfraidLady

I withdrew my data consent and i got a phone call asking if i was working at said company. Can they do this? i thought it was a recruiter because i have flown a few CVs about. So i said yes , wasn't until i asked, that i found out it was them. Could they claim? i have been employed for 10 months.

Chester666666

grai wrote: »

I'm off to a 3week something - or - other on Thursday which my post WP advisor couldn't even be bothered to explain to me when I asked him what it was about he just said it's to help you find work - this is what it has come down to - they are not even bothering to explain the stuff we are being subjected to - all part of the psychological wearing down to eventually get you to sign off through fair means or foul - they are just going to hassle and harass me

if nothing else they will have achieved their goal - I'll die of boredom in one of these silly "classes"

If its what I suspect it will be very silly
Many are getting sent to 2 or 3 week nonsense with cv help, interview prep and I got told I must wear interview dress for a day, money advice as some (quote my adviser) 'forgot how to budget when bieng unemployed'
Stuff mostly covered during the WP and other failed schemes

leroy28

AP007 wrote: »

geez spell check maybe?

stuff that.

leroy28

donnajunkie wrote: »

you may find it isnt as bad as you are imagining. if you want them to benefit as little as possible rather than doing what you say here just dont talk yourself up by saying you are good at this or got qualifications in that etc. just say look i've not done this before or i'm not very good at this but i will try. that way if you arent very good they are less likely to hold it against you. then you can specialise in making as little money for them as possible.

do you mean say that to the jobcentre advisor? ive not heard anything about having to do this but then its not like they would tell me in advance, also they would probably do it out of spite as thats what they are like, one advisor ive go at the moment is a rite !!!!!, shes completly ignorant, i tell her ive just applied for 2 driving jobs and she doesnt even listen. like doesnt even acknowledge anything i say.

like she doesnt belive me or something, really annoying she is. some of them do just love looking down on people. some are ok, though. whats yours like?