The Work Programme New Thread

Lith

Look at all these posts...


seriously this WP needs to die no one gets a job from it, and im sure everyone agrees that you do not want to go to the WP in a room filled with chavs.


DWP need to sort this mess out.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

I have only had 2 appts all the rest were job searches or recviews

The JC even wanted to know on several occasions what I was a doing an Unsupported job search there for!!

I am guessing they will suggest 'leave to do her won thing' as there is nothing else to suggest.

when i say appointments i mean everything you have done related to them, not just the 121's. so all jobsearch sessions, all training etc. if you had a better off calculation even that will be on it.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

when i say appointments i mean everything you have done related to them, not just the 121's. so all jobsearch sessions, all training etc. if you had a better off calculation even that will be on it.

I have not had a 1 2 1 for the last 3 months as the 'review' was done before they called me over and the last one was not even done when I was there!

No training
No better off calculation or whatever

All sessions where unsupervised and they have no idea I did anything when there for the hour.

Morlock

Jerry_Mander wrote: »

If they had no part in getting you the job then they have no right to a payment as a result of it, simple as that.

This is not strictly true, they do have a right to claim payment for a job they had no part in securing if the claimant signed the consent forms at any point whilst attending the WP.

It is good advice not to sign any forms consenting to share information with third-parties. Write to the WP provider withdrawing consent if they have been signed, this should stop any potential aggravation such as mr johnson is now receiving upon finding his own job.

AP007

Morlock wrote: »

This is not strictly true, they do have a right to claim payment for a job they had no part in securing if the claimant signed the consent forms at any point whilst attending the WP.

It is good advice not to sign any forms consenting to share information with third-parties. Write to the WP provider withdrawing consent if they have been signed, this should stop any potential aggravation such as mr johnson is now receiving upon finding his own job.

It is ONLY the consent form that gives them the right to do so and you need to not sign or withdraw BEFORE you sign off

Morlock

mr_johnson wrote: »

thanks chester. anyone else want to offer some advice? 007 & junkie feel free to take a break from your petty arguing and offer some advice, would be much appreciated

Write to the WP provider and withdraw consent to share your information with, or contact, any third-parties. This will prevent them from being able to claim any related 'performance payments', and will give you grounds to take the matter further should they continue to harass you for employee details.

Jerry_Mander

loony2012 wrote: »

Yes that's the point. When they came back and said it seemed strange i said did you check Section 3 point 8 of the
Jobseeker’s Allowance (Schemes for Assisting Persons to Obtain Employment) Regulations 2013


she said yes and as far as they were doing it was the WP wasn't an employment measure for us.

Hence why she now needs someone else to recheck as they think by the info i gave they are misinterpretation it to us.

She was pretty confused by the info and by what she knows about the WP so needed some 1 different elsewhere to go through it and get back to them.

I hope i'm not back on MWA as wth has litter picking got to do with my job roles in "Factory/Retail/Warehouse" Yet MWA put me on road sweeper lol.
I'm a lovely sides man who kicks litter from path onto road for the sweeper lol.

Loony2012 any more news yet?

Damalt

Had my first post work programme interview yesterday. My advisor got a tad upset when I quoted part 18 of the MWA guidelines. Claimed he'd never heard of it and that I sounded like I "didn't want a job" :rotfl:

Apparently it's 8 weeks "work experience" too.

BTW I thought that these mandatory work schemes were now illegal. How have they got around the ruling?

AP007

Damalt wrote: »

Had my first post work programme interview yesterday. My advisor got a tad upset when I quoted part 18 of the MWA guidelines. Claimed he'd never heard of it and that I sounded like I "didn't want a job" :rotfl:

Apparently it's 8 weeks "work experience" too.

BTW I thought that these mandatory work schemes were now illegal. How have they got around the ruling?

My WP provider told me the returners are doing a one day a week mini job search at mine but I wont know till I have my return interview.

No mention anywhere about work experience and I would love to see them I suggest I need some since I have never been out or work till now and can remember my job very well and only lost my job not my brain.

So you have to do 8 weeks work exp?

Where? Why?

Its not a job is it!??

Damalt

AP007 wrote: »

My WP provider told me the returners are doing a one day a week mini job search at mine but I wont know till I have my return interview.

No mention anywhere about work experience and I would love to see them I suggest I need some since I have never been out or work till now and can remember my job very well and only lost my job not my brain.

So you have to do 8 weeks work exp?

Where? Why?

Its not a job is it!??

Aye, the work experience crap came out of the blue. No mention of it by the WP provider.

Yes, it's 8 weeks long.

Possibly nationwide?