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donnajunkie

scooby088 wrote: »

Well I was due to be re-introduced to the work programme this morning after 4 months away due to working. Found out through this site that because I sign for NI credits only I don't have to attend the work programme and that they can't mandate me to do it either.

Still I guess I will get it in the neck in the next few days from my provider and jobcentre for not attending but I have nothing to sanction so I don't really care.

they can sanction your ni credits. its best to ensure its done officially if the rules say you dont have to do it. i fear this would have to be done before you start and if you're a returner then you are already classed as having started no doubt.

SaveMeDo

They can't mandate someone claiming I.N. credits only to do jack.

It's all over the DirectGov site and the guidance for the work program, that they can't.

They can try, but it won't stand.

scooby088

donnajunkie wrote: »

they can sanction your ni credits. its best to ensure its done officially if the rules say you dont have to do it. i fear this would have to be done before you start and if you're a returner then you are already classed as having started no doubt.

But I was signing for JSA when I started, now I only sign for credits. So if they sanction them I really don't care as I truly no state pension will be around when I retire.

Plus I would have to volunteer to go on the work programme to keep attending and I will not volunteer to go back.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

my new adviser is quite keen and friendly but clueless as usual on these courses. they bring up a list of jobs and i have to say which i am willing to apply for based on the job title alone. i have heard nothing back from these jobs they have put me forward for so far. didnt expect to really. i find each adviser does things differently and claims what they do is what everyone does and is down to the rules and cant be changed. i used to see my previous adviser every 4 to 8 weeks for a 121 and they never ever refered me for a job. i see the new adviser for a 121 every 2 weeks. i havent got long left. i am more worried about what the job centre will do to me next.

My one to ones (reviews) are now done before they call me over, I look at the agreed 'work' to be done the next time which never changes and it does I am already doing it so they scrub if off, sign it and then that's it for 4 weeks!!

I am only booked in this month for two job search sessions which still they can not tell me the purpose of these and just say the JC/DWP say you have to come here once a week to which I reply 'they do not run the WP'!!

It is 100% pointless in and out of the place in 23 mins last review and 15 of that was waiting time and 5 mins waiting for my travel.

ArtoDeeto

donnajunkie wrote: »

i havent got long left. i am more worried about what the job centre will do to me next.

What do you think they are going to do? IDS hasn't got round to implementing public flogging yet although my local Jobcentre does appear to be building a stock near the entrance

AP007

ArtoDeeto wrote: »

What do you think they are going to do? IDS hasn't got round to implementing public flogging yet although my local Jobcentre does appear to be building a stock near the entrance

working for free so its been said on here a few times which is ridiculous

out_of_cash

ionracas wrote: »

What do you actually do when you attend? How long are you there? Do you find advisors try and get you to apply for jobs where its clear you havent got the experience and wont get it?

How helpful or not is it?


My two years are up in august thank god.
mine is slightly different to other postees. they wasn't doing anything for me so the jobcentre told me to complain to the manager of pertemps which I did, the manager then called me back screaming down the phone like a cheap fishwife, I was then dragged in front of the area manager, humiliated, slandered that I didn't really want a a job and my cancer was just a front, at my next appointment I was paraded in front of other clients, and made to do a "yes" "no" in front of the whole room why they read a list of jobs out like bricklayer, jcb driver etc.

Since then I have been parked, in the last month she keeps referring me for jobs I cant do and have no experience, which her reply was " if everyone applied for jobs they could do, no one would get a job". I don't actually do anything, I sign in, she does a five minute job search, gives me a new appointment and I'm sent home again. I have recently enrolled myself in college because all these resources they told me they had haven't materialised, I was promised an I.T course all last year, when they finally got round to telling me I was on it, I found out I would be doing the course at home, then found out my win7 pc was incompatible with their software which runs on IE8.

You have a serious complaint to file hear, as you say slander.

red_devil

is there any compassionate leave when on this?

donnajunkie

ArtoDeeto wrote: »

What do you think they are going to do? IDS hasn't got round to implementing public flogging yet although my local Jobcentre does appear to be building a stock near the entrance

the belief is 6 months working for your dole. i already do voluntary work so am hoping to be allowed to do that but i bet i end up somewhere like poundland or tesco.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

the belief is 6 months working for your dole. i already do voluntary work so am hoping to be allowed to do that but i bet i end up somewhere like poundland or tesco.

They need to pay NMW for jobs to be filled by people on JSA if they in fact have a job to give.

Some people like me are due to end in about 7 weeks and nothing has been said at all to me