The Work Programme New Thread

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

i know but i'm agreeing with you.

Maybe someone in plain speak can tell how they think they are the same in all ways.

donnajunkie

AP007 wrote: »

Maybe someone in plain speak can tell how they think they are the same in all ways.

alot of people confuse workfare with the work programme.

AP007

donnajunkie wrote: »

alot of people confuse workfare with the work programme.

I will wait for them to post again haha

Kirri

AP007 wrote: »

there are no transferable skills to be a legal secretary from retail

Even a normal secretary would have little chance of getting a job as a legal sec! I'm going to find the WP hell...

Can I check, the universal jobmatch site thing is or is not mandatory? I thought we had to use it but didn't have to give them access to our searches, is that correct??

Also, as I don't want them to get a bonus if I get a job, can I just sign off if I find a job or how does it work?? I don't feel that anything they will do will help my search for work, they are only adding to any stress and I don't agree with how these schemes are run so don't want them to profit from me..

AP007

Kirri wrote: »

Even a normal secretary would have little chance of getting a job as a legal sec! I'm going to find the WP hell...

Can I check, the universal jobmatch site thing is or is not mandatory? I thought we had to use it but didn't have to give them access to our searches, is that correct??

Also, as I don't want them to get a bonus if I get a job, can I just sign off if I find a job or how does it work?? I don't feel that anything they will do will help my search for work, they are only adding to any stress and I don't agree with how these schemes are run so don't want them to profit from me..

If and WHEN you get a job you need to withdraw consent (BEFORE you sign off at he JC) with the work programme. They then can not contact your employer!

Kirri

AP007 wrote: »

If and WHEN you get a job you need to withdraw consent (BEFORE you sign off at he JC) with the work programme. They then can not contact your employer!

Thanks - will check how to do that. I wouldn't want them contacting any new employer either!!

If moving to a temp job, say very short term, would that still require the same?

AP007

Kirri wrote: »

Thanks - will check how to do that. I wouldn't want them contacting any new employer either!!

If moving to a temp job, say very short term, would that still require the same?

yes even for a temp job do the same

on the first appt you were prob given a form to sign saying you give them consent as a third party?

Kirri

AP007 wrote: »

yes even for a temp job do the same

on the first appt you were prob given a form to sign saying you give them consent as a third party?

I have my first appointment tomorrow - do I have to sign it??

donnajunkie

Kirri wrote: »

Even a normal secretary would have little chance of getting a job as a legal sec! I'm going to find the WP hell...

usually my strategy is to resist bulls**t where possible but try and realise when its better to just stop and to just play along. each time i see mine i get one job log sheet off them with room for 10 jobs. all i am going to do is send quick emails to the unsuitable jobs that keep it varied as they require and then fill the rest of it as normal with suitable jobs. when i was resisting they said i should still do the applications i currently do and then apply for the other jobs as well. in other words double my workload. they then started going on about how when they were out of work they started jobsearching at 8am and didnt stop until 5pm everyday. i felt like saying you do realise the jobcentre does not require this of people so you are out of order to imply anyone should do that. i just kept quiet and let them go on with their bulls**t. they will still be getting the one sheet and nothing more from me. i may well do more than the 1 sheet but the 1 sheet fulfills the requirements of the jobcentres rules. it also means the stuff i do seperate i can do as i see fit without their interference.

AP007

Kirri wrote: »

I have my first appointment tomorrow - do I have to sign it??

No you do not have to sign it at all

They will then say 'oh but we can't help you unless you sign it' so ask them how they are going to help you

IF they say they can put you forward for jobs if you sign it say one of the following if you like

Say you will think about it and take the form home

or sign it then see what they do for you ie do they put you forward for anything at all?

Mine has not put me forward for one job in 18 mths