The Work Programme New Thread

strangeotron

csmw wrote: »

The reason you are unemployed may be the fact your attitude is disgraceful....

this kind of simple minded and reqlly quite insulting prejudice typifies the work programme.

this is how advisers seem to operate. They think they know best and are in a position to offer personal judgements about people on nothing more than an hour's meeting. it's utterly ridiculous and quite offensive - as if a person's demeanour (assuming the adviser has the skill the read it accurately and without bias in the first place, mine certainly doesn't) remains unchanged throughout the day or that unemployed people stomp around with a bad head and do so during interviews.

Of course it's always much easier to find fault with the unemployed person...

Adamthegreat984

Anybody on the Work Programme been asked or forced to sign up to UJM the new job search system by Direct.gov.uk ?.

donnajunkie

Adamthegreat984 wrote: »

Anybody on the Work Programme been asked or forced to sign up to UJM the new job search system by Direct.gov.uk ?.

not yet but it wont be long. i overheard them today talking about it. they said they plan to eventually join forces with the jobcentre regarding this new website. so people will be forced to register on it and of course you cant take any chances and not apply for a job. so it means applying for everything it matches you with, no matter how ridiculous.

EndlessStruggle

I got offered the job I interviewed for. Was very surprised to get the offer, is subject to references and CRB check but is doing admin in a college.

looby75

EndlessStruggle wrote: »

I got offered the job I interviewed for. Was very surprised to get the offer, is subject to references and CRB check but is doing admin in a college.

Brilliant news, congratulations

MissSarah1972

Ok had my work programme induction meeting today. Deemed 'work ready' so they say I need no help and my CV is very proffesional.

I was told to look at one website and email my adviser 10 jobs weekly that I have applied for and that's it.

I asked about courses and they said they doubt any they had could help me and said if it wasn't a free course they wouldn't have it.

No other contact for 4 weeks then I have to go back there.

I went with an opne mind and got nothing that is of use.

EndlessStruggle

Thanks, was quite surprised to get the job offer as was interviewing against more experienced people but just waiting for my offer to come through now and then wait for references and CRB check. I am thinking of moving to the town the job is in as well

Midnight_Tboy

you should avoid emailing them your 10 jobs weekly...for a start you are giving them the communication from the places you've applied for that haven't consented with you to sharing their data.....and the WP like to bully people demanding data for email addresses etc.

Including them in emails in effect is also giving out personal data, emails, the companies info....and the WP are notorious for 'following up' your applications without you even knowing....pestering the places. People have lost jobs and alienated companies thanks to that horrid WP

Also, you are only required to provide evidence based on your JSAg......they can not insist on seeing evidence of more, so long as you show them evidence of meeting (and exceeding) your JSAg requirements (dont know about yourself, but in past for me it was something like 3 applications per week). In a nutshell.....I'd never include them in your emails, nor send forwards......show them a printout if required, and even blank out the companies name and address, or they WILL badger the company if it seems promising to them

MissSarah1972

Midnight_Tboy wrote: »

you should avoid emailing them your 10 jobs weekly...for a start you are giving them the communication from the places you've applied for that haven't consented with you to sharing their data.....and the WP like to bully people demanding data for email addresses etc.

Including them in emails in effect is also giving out personal data, emails, the companies info....and the WP are notorious for 'following up' your applications without you even knowing....pestering the places. People have lost jobs and alienated companies thanks to that horrid WP

Also, you are only required to provide evidence based on your JSAg......they can not insist on seeing evidence of more, so long as you show them evidence of meeting (and exceeding) your JSAg requirements (dont know about yourself, but in past for me it was something like 3 applications per week). In a nutshell.....I'd never include them in your emails, nor send forwards......show them a printout if required, and even blank out the companies name and address, or they WILL badger the company if it seems promising to them

What emails? I am not emailing them the emails I send to the jobs.

I have to send like this the link where the job was advertised and the job title and ref number - thats it.

They CAN NOT contact the company as they do not have permission to get involved in my applications only to approach a company that is either advertising with them or they see advertised else where but they told me they have not had any accounts roles in since they started the work programme.
I can assure you they are not contacting anyone on my behalf as a friend of mine goes to the same people.

Nothing is going to be promising to them at all when say 85% of the jobs I apply for are via agencies!

Midnight_Tboy

aah thats ok then, I got wrong end of the stick....I do know some that have been asked/demanded to include them in the bcc of all correspondence.......weblinks for apps are fine I guess...though the untrusting of me suspects the WP forge and lie their way around and contact anyways in order to get their payouts