The Work Programme New Thread

Daedalus

This is just an expensive scheme to keep the relatively unemployable busy. The most employable unemployed will constantly take the short supply of jobs.

The unemployment rate will remain the same no matter if every unemployed person had the same employability as the ideal worker.

scooby088

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

How can anyone help you get an interview? Can they force the companies to see you? Can they make them give you a job?

I am goong for a meeting with my provider this week and I have a friend who has been on it who just goes every 4 weeks and spends about 10 mins there if he is lucky, they get him to sign the list of ongoing stuff he does on a monthly basis and that's it.

How do you think they will help us all?

No you get interviews off your own back, you get jobs off your own back, if you have been unemployed for over 12 months something is very wrong with attitude and applications. I was in the same boat as everyone on here a few weeks ago, and I realised it's not my providers fault for not getting a job it was mine.

MissSarah1972

scooby088 wrote: »

No you get interviews off your own back, you get jobs off your own back, if you have been unemployed for over 12 months something is very wrong with attitude and applications. I was in the same boat as everyone on here a few weeks ago, and I realised it's not my providers fault for not getting a job it was mine.

But the WP are meant to help you aren't they?

Tell me how they helped you if you think they are great?

The moto of thte WP is 'to help and support you back into work'

and 'The Work Programme provides tailored support for claimants who need more help to undertake active and effective jobseeking'

What help will they give???

Just tell us how this will happen?

If you have been out of work for a while 12 mths or however long you like it may be for a million reasons

Over qualified (with 20 years exp applying for NMW jobs, junior role wont get you an interview)
They wont consider the unemplpoyed (it is a fact and I have it in writing)
CV don't get read (too many applcations)
You haven't worked in the industry (law firms wont interview you for accounts roles unless you have worked for a law firm no matter how many years you have in expereince)

etc

What job did you get then? What do you do for a living now?

scooby088

out_of_cash wrote: »

I think scooby088 is living in some kind of bubble.

The WP like the DWP is not fit for purpose.

A total waste of billions of tax payers money.

There are a huge percentage of people on the WP who have nothing but bad feedback from attending the waste of time courses on how to write a CV when they already have a perfectly professionally prepared one by companies who actually specialize in that area,not just some dreamy idea put in place by government.

Whether someone is unemployed for 6 months or 5years is irrelevant.There is a lot more to factor into this problem than just employing cowboy money grabbing compaies who fail hugely to deliver the results needed.Their more of a hindrance to most than a help.

The game is just to pile as many people into dead end low paid jobs so they can collect on the placement.Ive been on this pile of crap for 15months now and had 10 appointments in that time,i am out of work not for lack of trying, 485 applications and counting.This has only happened due to the stupid mentality of lets apply for any old job,it dosent matter how skills relevant this maybe, or if you can live on the money.

Been employed the last 32 years and unemployed the last 4.5,i guess the other 32 didn't really count for much experience being skilled,so are many many others.

I agree with most of what you have said in your post, I am not in a bubble I had spent the past 3 plus years unemployed, loads of things against me like being sacked from my previous employer so references wouldn't be that good. Also working in a industry which relied upon house building and home improvements doesn't help, loads of transferable skills but always getting beat to the job by someone else.

What is wrong with a low paid job atleast it's paid, whats wrong with dead end jobs? Plenty of people do them day in day out not everyone can be so picky when wanting to put food on the table or pay their bills.

MissSarah1972

scooby088 wrote: »

I agree with most of what you have said in your post, I am not in a bubble I had spent the past 3 plus years unemployed, loads of things against me like being sacked from my previous employer so references wouldn't be that good. Also working in a industry which relied upon house building and home improvements doesn't help, loads of transferable skills but always getting beat to the job by someone else.

What is wrong with a low paid job atleast it's paid, whats wrong with dead end jobs? Plenty of people do them day in day out not everyone can be so picky when wanting to put food on the table or pay their bills.

3 years unemployed? Sacked? Oh dear! You are the kind of person the WP is geared up for. Not 'professionals' sorry to say.

I have 4 really good references and still can't get interivews.

I can not even get interviews for NMW jobs!

csmw

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

3 years unemployed? Sacked? Oh dear! You are the kind of person the WP is geared up for. Not 'professionals' sorry to say.

I have 4 really good references and still can get interivews.

I can not even get interviews for NMW jobs!

The reason you are unemployed may be the fact your attitude is disgraceful.... Just because you have had a bad experience dosent mean everyone does and the fact you are trying to belittle someone for saying something positive is shameful.

If you display the same kind of attitude in interviews that you do on here your going to be on jsa for a long while to come.

scooby088

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

But the WP are meant to help you aren't they?

Tell me how they helped you if you think they are great?

The moto of thte WP is 'to help and support you back into work'

and 'The Work Programme provides tailored support for claimants who need more help to undertake active and effective jobseeking'

What help will they give???

Just tell us how this will happen?

If you have been out of work for a while 12 mths or however long you like it may be for a million reasons

Over qualified (with 20 years exp applying for NMW jobs, junior role wont get you an interview)
They wont consider the unemplpoyed (it is a fact and I have it in writing)
CV don't get read (too many applcations)
You haven't worked in the industry (law firms wont interview you for accounts roles unless you have worked for a law firm no matter how many years you have in expereince)

etc

What job did you get then? What do you do for a living now?

I am a carer for a young man with learning difficulties, a Industry I thought I would never be able to do, I do wash and get him ready for the day ahead(have no previous experience of doing it either) I work a 26 hour week and earn more than I would doing a 40 hour week on NMW.

I didn't say they helped me, but the work broker help me with motivation and confidence. I think the work broker more than the provider helped me with getting me out of the rut I was in.

I never thought I could do care work being from a manufacturing environment but I opened my mind and saw an oppotunity to take a job from the normality i was used to.

As for help I was hitting my head against a brick wall with the lack of it the work programme were going to give me.

MissSarah1972

csmw wrote: »

The reason you are unemployed may be the fact your attitude is disgraceful.... Just because you have had a bad experience dosent mean everyone does and the fact you are trying to belittle someone for saying something positive is shameful.

If you display the same kind of attitude in interviews that you do on here your going to be on jsa for a long while to come.

What interviews?

csmw

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

What interviews?

Those that you claim to be getting with your apparently good references!

MissSarah1972

csmw wrote: »

Those that you claim to be getting with your apparently good references!

Let me look where I claimed I was getting interviews and I will get back to you.