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  • MissSarah1972
    MissSarah1972 Posts: 1,648 Forumite
    everyone is capable of missing the obvious sometimes.
    Well he isn't, nor am I.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    Well he isn't, nor am I.
    then you really shouldnt talk about doing things like pretending to not recieve letters etc. all i was doing was trying to be helpful.
  • MissSarah1972
    MissSarah1972 Posts: 1,648 Forumite
    edited 16 August 2012 at 5:25PM
    then you really shouldnt talk about doing things like pretending to not recieve letters etc. all i was doing was trying to be helpful.
    Why not? That is actually being very wise!

    Like I said if they have 2 phone numbers for you and an email address why would their head office send a letter? Sounds like they live in the '80s when everyone wrote letters.

    No one can prove they sent a letter and you got it, fact actually.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    Why not? That is actually being very wise!

    Like I said if they have 2 phone numbers for you and an email address why would their head office send a letter? Sounds like they live in the '80s when everyone wrote letters.

    No one can prove they sent a letter and you got it, fact actually.
    risking a sanction so you can miss an appointment isnt wise at all. they dont have to prove your guilt. you have to prove your innocence when it comes to sanctions.
  • MissSarah1972
    MissSarah1972 Posts: 1,648 Forumite
    risking a sanction so you can miss an appointment isnt wise at all. they dont have to prove your guilt. you have to prove your innocence when it comes to sanctions.
    and the innocence would be the letter never arrived and no one can prove otherwise
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    and the innocence would be the letter never arrived and no one can prove otherwise
    you cant prove it didnt arrive. therefore you cant prove your innocence. you seem quite naive when it comes to dealing with jobcentre. dont you think they already realise people will have thought of the idea of pretending not to get a letter and put something in place to ensure people dont get away with it. otherwise they would never see anyone because everyone would be constantly pretending to not get the letters.
  • Gaz1971
    Gaz1971 Posts: 488 Forumite
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    JCP is clamping down on people who dont attend WP. My provider is being made to send letters to everyone re appointments, so there is a paper trail.
  • scooby088
    scooby088 Posts: 3,385 Forumite
    Gaz1971 wrote: »
    JCP is clamping down on people who dont attend WP. My provider is being made to send letters to everyone re appointments, so there is a paper trail.

    There maybe a paper trail their end but what if you got a lazy postie and never get the appointment letter through the post. I always make face to face appointments with my adviser.
  • donnajunkie
    donnajunkie Posts: 32,412 Forumite
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    scooby088 wrote: »
    There maybe a paper trail their end but what if you got a lazy postie and never get the appointment letter through the post. I always make face to face appointments with my adviser.
    indeed but you know what they are like. they will assume you are fibbing and at least try to sanction you. perhaps people could get away with it once but not anymore than that.
  • you cant prove it didnt arrive. therefore you cant prove your innocence. you seem quite naive when it comes to dealing with jobcentre. dont you think they already realise people will have thought of the idea of pretending not to get a letter and put something in place to ensure people dont get away with it. otherwise they would never see anyone because everyone would be constantly pretending to not get the letters.
    IF they were that bothered about people lying about letters the work programme people would send them all recorded delivery then no one could lie.

    You can prove that you never got it but saying it and like I say what idiots would not call you when they have TWO phone numbers and an email which is proof they spoke to you
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