ESA, Cant work... yet...

rogerblack

To comment on my case.

Certainly, I can work.
If...

I can work, if I have a job that I can do several hours a week, in the few minutes at a time I can usually concentrate, from home.
If it doesn't matter if I can't do anything for one, or several weeks when I'm feeling bad.

Ironically, my application for 'permitted work' - selling stuff I make on ebay - has just been turned down.
I now have to work out how to rewrite the proposal - that is permitted by the regulations - into something that is more easy for them to accept.

I want to get off benefit - but the only things that are 'easy' for them to understand is work at the minimum wage - which is never going to be appropriate at the few hours a week I can do it.

Brassedoff

Louise03 wrote: »

I do sort of see your point, While there will always be genuine cases there are an awful lot of one's pleading about how they will definetley be unable to work for the forseeable future.

IMO benefits have become to comfortable and people who have been claiming them for a length of time are becoming very unsettled with the proposed changes, ie frequent medicals etc and they seem to be going into panic mode that their benefits may be taken away from them.

I blame the previous government, they have created a society of people who think that "passing" a medical is some huge triumph.

Get off with ya. Do you really think £60 odd a week is "living off"? It's called existing, not living. Sat there typing. I use Dragon, think of reason why as well. Drugs (doctors issued ones), physical problems, the hardware many employers may need plus many other barriers. If it takes someone five minutes to post does this mean they can do 40-60 hours as a home worker? Did you see question time tonight? A Conservative MP admitted there is 5.6 applicants for every job.

I am in favour of a lot of welfare reform, but do it when there are jobs for people to go to, not now when there are so many people without personal "barriers" up against those who have them.

As its Christmas may I suggest you read one of the many Charles Dickens novels. They are full of a "caring" society that left fellow countrymen to starve, be homeless or sell their kids or wives into prostitution and the like.

UK in 2011; caring society? You answer.

tomjonesrules

rogerblack wrote: »

To comment on my case.

Certainly, I can work.
If...

I can work, if I have a job that I can do several hours a week, in the few minutes at a time I can usually concentrate, from home.
If it doesn't matter if I can't do anything for one, or several weeks when I'm feeling bad.

Ironically, my application for 'permitted work' - selling stuff I make on ebay - has just been turned down.
I now have to work out how to rewrite the proposal - that is permitted by the regulations - into something that is more easy for them to accept.

I want to get off benefit - but the only things that are 'easy' for them to understand is work at the minimum wage - which is never going to be appropriate at the few hours a week I can do it.

I am currently doing research on reasonable adjustments in the workplace. I found one example where a lady is allowed to work two months on and then one off, and thought what a great idea that was. Then I continued reading and was reminded how few people were even allowed flexi time or extended breaks, let alone a full month off at a time!

Cookiee

Mr2GTI I think your post is very inconsiderate. A lot of people come on here looking for advice and support with a system which is unfair, unrealistic and sometimes down right wrong.

Your post generalises everyone but you dont know the full story of everyones personal circumstances. ESA medicals are completed by a company who does not fathom personal circumstances. Whilst I agree in part that some people "ride the benefit horse" because they dont want to work, most people with a genuine medical condition just want to be able to either find a proper support network to enable them back to some form of work or if they are completley unable to work find support and not have to worry about the stress of how they are going to afford to eat the following week.

Normally posts like this i dont comment on but your post really annoyed me. My husband has 2 spinal blockages, Digenerative Disc Disease (severe) and 3 smashed discs. I am on this form to get support on benefits because we had never claimed before and wanted to make sure we got support whilst my husband is recovering. My husband failed on his ESA medical because they said he can use a wheelchair to work. My husband was a valeter for 15 yrs and worked in a warehouse for 5 years before that.

Partners come on this site to get advice and support too because an illness or not being able to work also affect no just the person who is ill/cant work but their partner / family etc.

I understand that everyone has a point of view but please when you post don't put everyone in one boat.

Cookiee

bestpud

I do know what posts you mean, OP.

But I'd argue an ability to type and contribute to an Internet forum means someone could cope with full time work.

Also, I'm not so sure there is many jobs that meet that criteria alone.

I think for many it's not a case of being unable to work at all, but rather there is not many jobs that will suit someone with a varying condition, let alone persuading employees to make costly adaptations.

In an ideal world, it would all happen as it should, but we're still a long way from realising the potential of people with disabilities.

DorsetGirl_2

What else did you read in the Daily Mail this morning?

Dognobs

Fear of change and the cushy option!

I have ASD but work and I don't enjoy getting up at 3:30am to goto work but I don't want to sit at home on my a$$ expecting everybody to pay for me. It is now too easy to get signed of sick and the PC brigade jump on anyone who say diffrent. I is not only the money it is everything else that goes with it. TBF Most on ESA can't even be bothard to sign on every two weeks!

The thing that makes me laugh is people coming on here saying how poor they are but still have the internet and computers.

People on ESA and IB get a easy ride FACT this is why people are fed up and it is too easy to say "you have not seen me on a bad day"

The_Write_Girl

I'm afraid I agree. Some of the people with so-called cognitive disabilities can type and express themselves much better than a lot of the journalists I've trained.

If benefits vanished tomorrow you'd be surprised at how many people could suddenly work. I went straight to work after being involved in a car crash as I had urgent business. It never occurred to me to sit at home with my feet up.

The_Write_Girl

For the record I freaking love the Daily Mail.

Prinzessilein

Just because I can sit in my chair and make a contribution to this thread does not make me fit for work.

If it did, believe me, I would be earning a living instead of being on benefits.

Yesterday, I blacked out whilst sitting at my laptop. It's not the first time and I doubt it will be the last. This morning I am typing with just one hand - really slow!....as my other hand is uncooperative today. If my tics get really bad I can up my meds - with the possible side-effect that my muscles relax to the point of not supporting me sitting upright and I need to lie down. Today I can read and make sense of the words on screen, this afternoon I may not recognize the meaning of simple words.....just a few of the problems I have that mean I can make the occasional post on-line but could not work.

I happen to be bilingual. I used to do translating. However there are not many companies who are prepared to wait over a week for me to finish the business letter I was translating and e-mail it back...by which time they have probably lost the business deal!

If I could work I would! This is not the life I would choose for myself. As it is, I make the best of what I can do.....Oh, and when will people realise that living on benefits is far from a life of riches!