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Suarez - I would stand but don't think my rubbish comprehensive education (ruined by the Tory's) would get me in !
What the country needs is someone with some balls to actually say these things. Someone who isn't from a privileged background who wasn't born with a silver spoon shoved up their !!!! !. So many people I talk to have the same opinion about immigration it's almost laughable, but they do nothing about it. I guess the areas they live in are not quite like where the rest of us live ! They are scared to speak out in case they are accused of being a racist !
If someone did come out with it (and not the way the BMP would) I would vote for them in a second. Time we started looking after our own now !
ps RVP > Suarez ;o)0 -
Suarez - I would stand but don't think my rubbish comprehensive education (ruined by the Tory's) would get me in !
What the country needs is someone with some balls to actually say these things. Someone who isn't from a privileged background who wasn't born with a silver spoon shoved up their !!!! !. So many people I talk to have the same opinion about immigration it's almost laughable, but they do nothing about it. I guess the areas they live in are not quite like where the rest of us live ! They are scared to speak out in case they are accused of being a racist !
If someone did come out with it (and not the way the BMP would) I would vote for them in a second. Time we started looking after our own now !
ps RVP > Suarez ;o)
Damien Green MP for Dover. Before the election he was adamant that his party would deal with immigration, but only if he was elected to govern. He was, and now has changed his tune!!! Typical.
You are so right, everybody in this country is scared stiff about even mentioning the subject.
What we need desperately are MP's from all walks of life that see things as they really are and how it affects the ordinary person in the street.
How do you start about standing for Parliament? The two parties + the 'wets' seem to have a stranglehold on the system.0 -
Damien Green MP for Dover. Before the election he was adamant that his party would deal with immigration, but only if he was elected to govern. He was, and now has changed his tune!!! Typical.
You are so right, everybody in this country is scared stiff about even mentioning the subject.
What we need desperately are MP's from all walks of life that see things as they really are and how it affects the ordinary person in the street.
How do you start about standing for Parliament? The two parties + the 'wets' seem to have a stranglehold on the system.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/21/how-to-become-an-mp-115875-21376281/
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Member #10 of £2 savers club
Imagine someone holding forth on biology whose only knowledge of the subject is the Book of British Birds, and you have a rough idea of what it feels like to read Richard Dawkins on theology: Terry Eagleton0 -
seven-day-weekend wrote: »
Thanks so much for that. £500 ummm
I am seriously interested in doing something about this country.
I don't agree with being racialistic, but being honest can never be wrong.
As for other policies, I say it as I find it, which may embarrass some, but that is their problem.0 -
:rotfl: sorrees....there...but the impression I've formed of you over the years would be that you come from a bit upper-crust, wealthier background than mine and therefore probably feel a lot more "immune" to what anyone else might think than most of us would. The mention of tiny old t.v. in post above also tends to confirm that impression in my mind.
Thats not said in any "negative" sorta way about you - but I'm aware that a friend I have from a very "posh" background simply wouldnt even think of wondering what anyone would think of her (supermarket assistant or otherwise).
(I know...I know its "not done" to mention class - even though its STILL such a huge influence in Britain...but to put it quite bluntly as far as I can see:
- its people who are "respectable working class" or "middle class" that would find a voucher system humiliating and belittling. The f*ckless "underclass" wouldnt give a damn for one reason and "yer more upper class" wouldnt give a damn for another reason. The vast majority of us though would feel in a position where we DO "give a damn" and would be upset by it.)
I'm neither "!!!!less underclass" nor "upper class".
Despite the idea of the class system being rooted and firm, in my family it wasn't - my grandparents were respectable working class, my Dad became the first person in his family to stay at school past the minimum leaving age, and went on to do A levels and university, and became a barrister.
So I'm no aristocrat, no inheritor of landed acres and family wealth. My parents, my siblings, my OH and I all work for a living. No poshness.
I just don't care what random people I don't know think about me, when it comes to things like vouchers, age of car, size of TV, etc.
By the way, what impression does a tiny old TV give?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
Please read this email that has been sent to a lot of people lately about Immigrants & Asylum Seekers & Our British Pensioners,Perhapes all those Benefit Bashers should rad this & tell me it is still wrong for British Non-Workers to have benefits,maybe you should stop all the following payments to Immigrants & Asylum Seekers & that might improve our economy.PLEASE READ!!
It's a load of old cobblers, sorry.BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER (bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and National Insurance contributions to the British government all their working life) Weekly allowance: £106.00- IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN (No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever) Weekly allowance: £250.00
Immigrants and refugees aren't the same thing at all.
I don't understand what "weekly allowance" means anyway. I'm not aware of any such benefit.
Asylum seekers who have no other funds are supported by NASS. They don't qualify for normal benefits, or for council accommodation, or for housing benefit.
Instead, they get NASS provided accommodation. This can be anywhere in the country - there are very few NASS places in London or the south-east of England. Lots in places such as Stoke-on-Trent, though.
Living allowances are about 70% of income support rates for adults.
When an asylum seeker first claims, they are put in interim accommodation. They are fed there, and housed, but get no cash payments at all until their applications for NASS support are processed. If they didn't claim asylum within 3 days of arrival, or if they aren't entirely clear about how they arrived in the UK, they don't get anything.
On most other visas, people are specifically not entitled to public funds. And those who do pay NI and income tax (such as people on work visas) have to pay it without being entitled to benefits.
A refugee - someone who is granted refugee status - then moves on to the normal benefits system.BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Weekly Spouse allowance: £25.00- ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Weekly Spouse allowance: £225.00
Rubbish. Illlegal immigrants aren't entitled to benefits, unless they are failed asylum seekers who (1) are destitute and (2) agree to return to their country as soon as possible. Then they get s.4 benefits, the same as asylum seekers.BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER Additional weekly hardship allowance £0.00- ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN Additional weekly hardship allowance £100.00
Again, illegals don't get benefits, and asylum-seeker payments are 70% less than income support....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »It's a load of old cobblers, sorry.
Immigrants and refugees aren't the same thing at all.
I don't understand what "weekly allowance" means anyway. I'm not aware of any such benefit.
Asylum seekers who have no other funds are supported by NASS. They don't qualify for normal benefits, or for council accommodation, or for housing benefit.
Instead, they get NASS provided accommodation. This can be anywhere in the country - there are very few NASS places in London or the south-east of England. Lots in places such as Stoke-on-Trent, though.
Living allowances are about 70% of income support rates for adults.
When an asylum seeker first claims, they are put in interim accommodation. They are fed there, and housed, but get no cash payments at all until their applications for NASS support are processed. If they didn't claim asylum within 3 days of arrival, or if they aren't entirely clear about how they arrived in the UK, they don't get anything.
On most other visas, people are specifically not entitled to public funds. And those who do pay NI and income tax (such as people on work visas) have to pay it without being entitled to benefits.
A refugee - someone who is granted refugee status - then moves on to the normal benefits system.
Rubbish. Illlegal immigrants aren't entitled to benefits, unless they are failed asylum seekers who (1) are destitute and (2) agree to return to their country as soon as possible. Then they get s.4 benefits, the same as asylum seekers.
Again, illegals don't get benefits, and asylum-seeker payments are 70% less than income support.
There was a thread about asylum seekers a couple of nights ago centering on Salford city council. Apparently, 'seekers' can get a 'weekly allowance' of around £35 per week. However, the letter that was shown came from facebook and noboby was certain as to its authenticity. it listed 'social responsibilities' of the council in view of asylum seekers. This included what seemed a generous allowance of gas/elec tokens, free rented housing, maintained gardens,free council tax and another I can't remember.As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0 -
There was a thread about asylum seekers a couple of nights ago centering on Salford city council. Apparently, 'seekers' can get a 'weekly allowance' of around £35 per week. However, the letter that was shown came from facebook and noboby was certain as to its authenticity. it listed 'social responsibilities' of the council in view of asylum seekers. This included what seemed a generous allowance of gas/elec tokens, free rented housing, maintained gardens,free council tax and another I can't remember.
Support isn't from the local council. It's from NASS. It includes accommodation, but allocated, rather than social housing or LHA funded private rentals.
It's also of a lower standard than rented housing. For example, single asylum-seeker usually don't have a bedroom of their own, but share with another adult asylum-seeker of the same gender....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »Support isn't from the local council. It's from NASS. It includes accommodation, but allocated, rather than social housing or LHA funded private rentals.
It's also of a lower standard than rented housing. For example, single asylum-seeker usually don't have a bedroom of their own, but share with another adult asylum-seeker of the same gender.
in that case the letter that was shown on here purportedly from Salford city council must have been a fake. It set out what the 'social responsibilities' towards 'asylum seekers' must be.
It just occured to me. By "allocated", do you mean that NASS own the building?
That's right, for asylum seeker families of say 2 adults + 2 children rented accomodation of a 'high standard' and furnished would be found.
I haven't checked but links in the thread related to greater manchester newspapers. As far as I can see the thread was removed. Why? Don't know!
Also, do you know who pays NASS funding?As surely as night follows day capitalism will come crumbling down. On a mission to secure a just and ethical society.0 -
It's a fraud, promoted by the BNP and neo-nazi group Stormfront. More here:in that case the letter that was shown on here purportedly from Salford city council must have been a fake.
http://edlnews.co.uk/edl-news/gary-tumulty-and-the-fake-bnp-asylum-letterpoppy100
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