Does anyone else take food grade DE?

bedpotato_2

*sigh*

As I already pointed out in my original post (which I've now deleted due to being told it read like spam) the reason that there are no scientific studies being carried out is the same reason that no scientific studies are carried out on ANY alternative remedies: the only people who have the funding and resources to carry out such studies are the pharmaceutical giants, and it is not in their interest to do so because they cannot patent things such as diatomaceous earth, apple cider vinegar, or coconut oil to verify the truth of the anecdotal reports, and therefore there would be no money in it for them. You can only patent a medicine if you invent or discover it yourself, so it is not at all likely that any drug companies will be carrying out tests to verify if it's really true that this dirt cheap supplement does a far better job than all their nasty medicines, is it? They'd be stabbing themselves in the foot if they admitted: "em, yes, actually this supplement lowers blood pressure, reduces cholesterol, improves sleep, etc etc, without any of the nasty side effects our medicines have - take DE instead!"

murphydog999 wrote: »

I've been looking for some kind of concrete evidence.

Next time I poo out another worm I can photograph it and post a picture on here if you like.

Look, can the naysayers and sceptics please stay away from this thread? There are plenty of other places you can go and vent your scepticism. I intended this to be a place for people who are actually TAKING diatomaceous earth to come and share their results. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. Nobody's forcing you, but please don't spoil this thread for everybody else.

Rinabean's point about breathing it in applies to ANY kind of powder. Flour. Talc. Just use your common sense. Don't breathe it in and you'll be fine.

The wormers you can buy in Boots will be poison. Commercial wormers are just poisons. That's why they kill the worms. The only reason they don't kill you or me is that they're poison in a low dose. I'd rather pass on the poison and take some harmless diatomaceous earth that is certified as FOOD GRADE. You can eat it day after day after day and nothing bad will happen to you. They're already sneaking it into a lot of the things you and I eat, anyway! As for going to the GP, that would be of no avail because modern medicine in the West seems to be kidding itself that worms are no longer around. Take an infected stool sample to a lab and the results will probably come back clear. There are HUNDREDS of species of worms but most labs only screen for a small percent of them so your doctor will probably tell you you're fine, even if you present him with a stool sample with some freshly passed worms on the top! (read this testimony here)

http://fossilshellflour.blogspot.com/

People need to stop being so naive and assuming that the medicines they buy in a pharmacy are "safe" when in fact most of them are poisons. Also people need to stop believing that their GP knows everything. They don't.

Amanita_2

Disregarding the hype from the sites with a product to sell, several university research studies available on line give distinctly mixed results. If that makes me a sceptic then so be it.

I am giving it a wide berth until there is more evidence available - it isn't that long ago that tobacco smoking was being promoted as GOOD for the lungs.

Elle7

bedpotato wrote: »

*sigh*

As I already pointed out in my original post (which I've now deleted due to being told it read like spam) the reason that there are no scientific studies being carried out is the same reason that no scientific studies are carried out on ANY alternative remedies: the only people who have the funding and resources to carry out such studies are the pharmaceutical giants, and it is not in their interest to do so because they cannot patent things such as diatomaceous earth, apple cider vinegar, or coconut oil to verify the truth of the anecdotal reports, and therefore there would be no money in it for them. You can only patent a medicine if you invent or discover it yourself, so it is not at all likely that any drug companies will be carrying out tests to verify if it's really true that this dirt cheap supplement does a far better job than all their nasty medicines, is it? They'd be stabbing themselves in the foot if they admitted: "em, yes, actually this supplement lowers blood pressure, reduces cholesterol, improves sleep, etc etc, without any of the nasty side effects our medicines have - take DE instead!"



Next time I poo out another worm I can photograph it and post a picture on here if you like.

Look, can the naysayers and sceptics please stay away from this thread? There are plenty of other places you can go and vent your scepticism. I intended this to be a place for people who are actually TAKING diatomaceous earth to come and share their results. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. Nobody's forcing you, but please don't spoil this thread for everybody else.

Rinabean's point about breathing it in applies to ANY kind of powder. Flour. Talc. Just use your common sense. Don't breathe it in and you'll be fine.

The wormers you can buy in Boots will be poison. Commercial wormers are just poisons. That's why they kill the worms. The only reason they don't kill you or me is that they're poison in a low dose. I'd rather pass on the poison and take some harmless diatomaceous earth that is certified as FOOD GRADE. You can eat it day after day after day and nothing bad will happen to you. They're already sneaking it into a lot of the things you and I eat, anyway! As for going to the GP, that would be of no avail because modern medicine in the West seems to be kidding itself that worms are no longer around. Take an infected stool sample to a lab and the results will probably come back clear. There are HUNDREDS of species of worms but most labs only screen for a small percent of them so your doctor will probably tell you you're fine, even if you present him with a stool sample with some freshly passed worms on the top! (read this testimony here)

http://fossilshellflour.blogspot.com/

People need to stop being so naive and assuming that the medicines they buy in a pharmacy are "safe" when in fact most of them are poisons. Also people need to stop believing that their GP knows everything. They don't.

You posted on here to draw people's attentions to this product, but when people question it you act so defensively and irritated. Did you expect everyone to just start taking it on your say-so?

I was interested, but this has put me off. It isn't just big pharmaceutical companies which carry out testing, universities do too, and they haven't found the type of results which would convince anyone to take this.

There could be side-effects...just look at smoking, which was thought to be good for you at one time, or asbestos in houses.

As for wormers just being poisons - worms thrive off the same conditions you do. That's why you are a perfect host for them. So if DE kills them, it is poison - just like the ones the doctors give.

peachyprice

bedpotato wrote: »

*sigh*

As I already pointed out in my original post (which I've now deleted due to being told it read like spam) the reason that there are no scientific studies being carried out is the same reason that no scientific studies are carried out on ANY alternative remedies: the only people who have the funding and resources to carry out such studies are the pharmaceutical giants, and it is not in their interest to do so because they cannot patent things such as diatomaceous earth, apple cider vinegar, or coconut oil to verify the truth of the anecdotal reports, and therefore there would be no money in it for them. You can only patent a medicine if you invent or discover it yourself, so it is not at all likely that any drug companies will be carrying out tests to verify if it's really true that this dirt cheap supplement does a far better job than all their nasty medicines, is it? They'd be stabbing themselves in the foot if they admitted: "em, yes, actually this supplement lowers blood pressure, reduces cholesterol, improves sleep, etc etc, without any of the nasty side effects our medicines have - take DE instead!"



Next time I poo out another worm I can photograph it and post a picture on here if you like.

Look, can the naysayers and sceptics please stay away from this thread? There are plenty of other places you can go and vent your scepticism. I intended this to be a place for people who are actually TAKING diatomaceous earth to come and share their results. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. Nobody's forcing you, but please don't spoil this thread for everybody else.

Rinabean's point about breathing it in applies to ANY kind of powder. Flour. Talc. Just use your common sense. Don't breathe it in and you'll be fine.

The wormers you can buy in Boots will be poison. Commercial wormers are just poisons. That's why they kill the worms. The only reason they don't kill you or me is that they're poison in a low dose. I'd rather pass on the poison and take some harmless diatomaceous earth that is certified as FOOD GRADE. You can eat it day after day after day and nothing bad will happen to you. They're already sneaking it into a lot of the things you and I eat, anyway! As for going to the GP, that would be of no avail because modern medicine in the West seems to be kidding itself that worms are no longer around. Take an infected stool sample to a lab and the results will probably come back clear. There are HUNDREDS of species of worms but most labs only screen for a small percent of them so your doctor will probably tell you you're fine, even if you present him with a stool sample with some freshly passed worms on the top! (read this testimony here)

http://fossilshellflour.blogspot.com/

People need to stop being so naive and assuming that the medicines they buy in a pharmacy are "safe" when in fact most of them are poisons. Also people need to stop believing that their GP knows everything. They don't.

Wow, your whole diatribe really makes it sounds as if you've been brainwashed by conspiracy theories!

I hope you have a healthy life, but really, your reasons for there being little evidence to support your wonder-cure are flimsy to say the least.

rinabean

Diatomaceous earth isn't poisonous. It works mechanically - it's very absorbent and it has a large, spiky surface area. This is why it's harmful to the lungs. It's not just as harmful as any powder - if it were, then eating talc would get rid of worms, and, well, as far as I know, it doesn't. (Of course, talc is bad for you for a whole other host of reasons.)

The fact that it works mechanically and not chemically is why I was looking into using it for pets (as opposed to using pesticides), but I was put off by the possibility of lung damage. Though I think they regulate how dusty it's allowed to be in some countries. I'll think more about it when I get my cat, but I still can't see me eating it! I can totally believe that the average human is full of worms and getting rid of some can be beneficial to the health. But I think some people get too obsessed with the contents of their bowels - people get addicted to enemas and all sorts, and this ends up being detrimental. The balance of the various flora and fauna of the bowels is very delicate, and if you are not experiencing any problems, I'd be inclined to just let them carry on on their own. But, that's just me.

glowgirl_2

bedpotato wrote: »

*sigh* yes I did this too

As I already pointed out in my original post (which I've now deleted due to being told it read like spam) the reason that there are no scientific studies being carried out is the same reason that no scientific studies are carried out on ANY alternative remedies: the only people who have the funding and resources to carry out such studies are the pharmaceutical giants, and it is not in their interest to do so because they cannot patent things such as diatomaceous earth, apple cider vinegar, or coconut oil to verify the truth of the anecdotal reports, and therefore there would be no money in it for them. You can only patent a medicine if you invent or discover it yourself, so it is not at all likely that any drug companies will be carrying out tests to verify if it's really true that this dirt cheap supplement does a far better job than all their nasty medicines, is it? They'd be stabbing themselves in the foot if they admitted: "em, yes, actually this supplement lowers blood pressure, reduces cholesterol, improves sleep, etc etc, without any of the nasty side effects our medicines have - take DE instead!"



Next time I poo out another worm I can photograph it and post a picture on here if you like. no thank you.

Look, can the naysayers and skeptics please stay away from this thread? No its a public forum to discuss whatever we like There are plenty of other places you can go and vent your skepticism. But I want to vent it here about a subject I am skeptic about intended this to be a place for people who are actually TAKING diatomaceous earth to come and share their results. You don't have to take it if you don't want to. Nobody's forcing you, but please don't spoil this thread for everybody else. But its a discussion on a forum, you don't own or control the thread and with different view points for people to read they can make an informed decision.

Rinabean's point about breathing it in applies to ANY kind of powder. Flour. Talc. Just use your common sense. Don't breathe it in and you'll be fine. Sometimes it cant be helped but why would you deliberately put yourself at risk.

The wormers you can buy in Boots will be poison. Commercial wormers are just poisons. That's why they kill the worms. The only reason they don't kill you or me is that they're poison in a low dose. So you can take a regulated poison to solve your problem or eat some untested for humans earth - hmmm lets see now...I'd rather pass on the poison and take some harmless diatomaceous earth that is certified as FOOD GRADE. You can eat it day after day after day and nothing bad will happen to you. They're already sneaking it into a lot of the things you and I eat, anyway! Like what? As for going to the GP, that would be of no avail because modern medicine in the West seems to be kidding itself that worms are no longer around. Take an infected stool sample to a lab and the results will probably come back clear. There are HUNDREDS of species of worms but most labs only screen for a small percent of them so your doctor will probably tell you you're fine, even if you present him with a stool sample with some freshly passed worms on the top! (read this testimony here) But what if you are fine and worrying unnecessarily, paranoia is another health issue altogether.

http://fossilshellflour.blogspot.com/

People need to stop being so naive and assuming that the medicines they buy in a pharmacy are "safe" when in fact most of them are poisons. Also people need to stop believing that their GP knows everything. They don'tMaybe not everything but probably more than someone who takes medical advice from the internet..

..........

murphydog999

bedpotato wrote: »

I intended this to be a place for people who are actually TAKING diatomaceous earth to come and share their results.

Really? This seems like you are promoting it to me.

Quote - If anyone wants to join the DE challenge for better health and check in every now and then to let us know how you're getting on, feel free! I've just recently started taking it myself and am thrilled with the results so far, but it's a bit soon to tell as I'm still going through detox. I have become rather enthusiastic about it and wanted to pass the message on. It's early days yet but it seems to be helping me with my IBS and my acne ALREADY! I also lost three pounds in the first two days but this was just water weight due to the DE flushing out my bladder and making me pee.

Benefits:

Eliminates worms and parasites without the need for nasty expensive poisons (GREAT for dogs and cats but works in humans too!)
Lowers blood pressure
Lowers bad cholesterol
Increases unrine production by up to 30% (it's a diuretic) thus clears up UTIs and kidney problems
Clears up skin conditions (acne, excema, dermatitis, etc etc)
Reduces food cravings, intolerances and allergies
Regulates appetite
Cleans out the digestive system
Clears up both diahorrea and constipation
Improves concentration
Increases energy

There are a number of places that sell it online but make sure you buy FOOD GRADE diatomaceous earth, NOT the kind for water filtration systems that has had chemicals added to it.

Make sure you drink plenty of water when taking DE, or it may constipate you due to its high absorbing qualities drawing water from your stools.

Crocswearer

rinabean wrote: »

The dust is harmful, though, isn't it? It has a similar effect on the lungs to asbestos. Is the stuff you're using prepared in such a way that dust isn't released, or are you just being careful/wearing a mask or something?

From the website where I buy mine:

Safety

Only food grade diatom should be used for consumption as our product contains less than 0.5% Cystallin Silicon, and so does not cause silicosis



Are there any safety concerns with DE?

Yes, you must wear a dust mask when applying it as it can irritate the mucous membranes in the nose and mouth. Once the DE dust has settled it won't bother you. The continual breathing of any dust should he absolutely avoided.

peachyprice

Crocswearer wrote: »

Yes, you must wear a dust mask when applying it as it can irritate the mucous membranes in the nose and mouth. Once the DE dust has settled it won't bother you. The continual breathing of any dust should he absolutely avoided.

Ooops, hope OP reads that as she doesn't seem to think it's necessary.

Crocswearer

I don't think its necessary either, when I'm scooping it out of a container and putting into a glass of water.

I think "applying it" means sprinkling it or otherwise spreading it somewhere. It says once its settled it won't bother you. Mine has settled in its container and stays settled!