I'm so depressed I can't even cry anymore.......

Gingernutty

Thanks for all your help and advice guys, much appreciated.

Well, as I expected, the day was a crashing disaster.

I woke up late with no time for breakfast and started dosing myself with a well known caffeine tablet.

The three hour test went okay, the wait wasn't brilliant (I was still popping caffeine pills to stay 'up') I was interrupted twice by the department manager who sat and talked to me twice.

Both times, at pains to point out that "This isn't the interview, by the way, I just wanted your thoughts"

Eh?

The interview was awful. Someone told them what had happened. And yet they still needed a manager's reference. I found this out after they told me that they were actually looking to fill a position in another hospital in the same trust miles away from where the interview was held.

Like a train, a long walk and a bus ride wasn't hassle enough to get there.

Then, full of virus and caffeine, I had to go home again lugging kilos of books in a shopping trolley. I felt so tired and light headed I had to rest at the bullring.

So I went home in the rush hour and went to bed safe in the knowledge that was yet another interview fcuked up.

FML.

piglet25

Is there no way you can avoid giving her name as the referree? Can you put that you had a grievience with her and therefore she would be unable to supply a fair reference? Or maybe write that you had personal disagreements with her? Or if it gets you a job, tell them she is an ex-partner with a grudge?
Not ideal I know but if she is as horrific and vindictive as you say then it may be the only way forward.
As a side thought, was the hospital you left in staffordshire by any chance?

Gingernutty

piglet25 wrote: »

Is there no way you can avoid giving her name as the referree?

Nope

piglet25 wrote: »

Can you put that you had a grievience with her and therefore she would be unable to supply a fair reference? Or maybe write that you had personal disagreements with her?

I did. I was as high as a kite on caffeine and cold cures, but I did.

piglet25 wrote: »

Or if it gets you a job, tell them she is an ex-partner with a grudge?

:rotfl: No. Definitely not.

piglet25 wrote: »

Not ideal I know but if she is as horrific and vindictive as you say then it may be the only way forward.

They asked for my current line manager but that's going to be kiboshed as soon as they note my sick record. I was off sick at the time of the interview.

piglet25 wrote: »

As a side thought, was the hospital you left in staffordshire by any chance?

No. A near neighbour to that one.

piglet25

Would the manager where you had the tempory work untill the end of march supply a reference? I also worked at a near neighbour of that infamous hospital, and there were a few 'bad managers' and jumped up pen pushers there too, I bet it was the same one x

Gingernutty

For future job applications I could/will use the current head of the HR team who is in charge of the Bank Staff.

An old line manager who is currently on sick/maternity leave has agreed to act as a referee but as she is not currently working, she can only act as a personal referee.

I have a few personal referee options (I really didn't know people liked me that much) but it's the current manager 'thing' that has me stymied.

There are that many bad managers within the NHS, you could be guessing all day before you landed on the right name. :rotfl:

EDIT : I've just realised that this doesn't make sense.

In the NHS, the recruitment process is so slow that I was only interviewed on Thursday for a job I applied for in February, before I started working 'on the Bank'. Making my references out of date.

I've changed managers and the personal referee who I worked with had left to go working as a temp in other hospitals. I've only got a personal email account for her.

So for future job applications etc.

Gingernutty

Gingernutty wrote: »

So I went home in the rush hour and went to bed safe in the knowledge that was yet another interview fcuked up.

FML.

:wall:

I received a 'phone call today (a week after they said I'd hear from them) congratulating me and provisionally offering me the job.

However, their HR is insisting on a reference from my old TM. Not the TL who kindly said she would provide one but the TM.

And, regardless of what their TM wants, their HR can veto any job offer.

They've spent the past week arguing with their own HR for me about not using my old TM. :huh: How mad is that?

Meanwhile, old TM has taken on two contractors one of whom isn't fully qualified (:mad:) and new TM has extended my contract to beyond the end of March - it could go on 'til the end of June. It may even become permanent.

While it's nice to be wanted, I wouldn't mind the job that I actually applied for and not the one I fell into.

paulineb_2

You have the right to see and challenge a reference. A family member of mine had some very negative and untrue things said about her in a reference and she went to the union and the person writing it was made to remove what was said.

Gingernutty

I'm thinking I'm going to have to pre-empt this somehow. Find a Union rep and tell him/her what's been going on.

Gingernutty

News:

The interview for the lab technician went very well but I didn't get it. The lady who called me told me there was nothing that I did wrong. :undecided

I presented well, answered the questions efficiently and concisely, used appropriate experiences to illustrate my answers and knew my way around a lab.

I even passed a little practical test they had set up - pipetting liquids and innoculating a Petri dish. :cool:

However, they decided to give the position to someone who had worked in a Microbiology lab before. You simply can't argue with experience, can you?

I had previously answered a text from our HR department who were looking for bank workers for a night shift role and they picked that day to ring me about it.

I got it! :beer:

There are five training nights for a system support/helpdesk type role and then the sixth night I'm going to be let loose by myself. :eek:

The boss for my current day job is annoyed to be losing me while I'm being trained. While I can't blame her I have to look out for myself.

I can't afford to be off sick again - I ended up in A&E one weekend night after the last interview on a nebuliser for a "bubbly chest". I have asthma; bugs hit me hard and recovering from bugs is slow going.

Once a small team of bank workers are trained up, they can be called on at a weeks notice to fill in various shifts.

With the night shift premium that will be well good. :cool:

My old TM is advertising for four members of staff. Not qualified staff but trained. :mad:

When in a meeting with TM, the union rep and HR, my offer on the table was that they could extend my contract until they had hired people to replace me and another lady who had retired.

TM, with a big smile on her face and a voice dripping with honey, turned to the HR woman and told her that there was no operational need to extend my contract as I wasn't qualified.

Now they're looking for trained staff, qualifications optional.

The last time they advertised, no one applied. I wonder what would happen if I did? :rotfl:

And no. I haven't heard a thing about the job I've been offered.

Gingernutty

Gingernutty wrote: »

And no. I haven't heard a thing about the job I've been offered.

News:

I have received an email from their HR with an offer letter, a contract, a work health assessment and a new employee questionnaire.

And a request for 3 years worth of management references.

I sent them the names and addresses of five referees (two people have given me their home addresses and personal emails).

I can give the HR dept. more if they ask for them.

The TM details have been carefully left out at this stage.

Fingers crossed.