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what're your reasons for not being on the organ donor registry?

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  • redcard
    redcard Posts: 1,563 Forumite
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    bluenoseam wrote: »
    Given my medical history i would expect i would be barred but even if not i would not be on the list, if i do decide to donate my organs anywhere it would be to research - much better to offer the basis of life saving treatment to thousands than to use it all for one family, while i appreciate that will grate some people, if it's a choice between saving 1 life or 10000, i'd much sooner save 10000.

    So you'd rather hypothetically save 10 000 as opposed to 1? Yes, makes sense.

    But if you had a choice between 1 and 0, you would choose 0?
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  • Amanita_2
    Amanita_2 Posts: 1,299 Forumite
    Lokolo wrote: »
    Try reading the rest of my post, including the quoted bit from marleyboy....
    Snip

    Hope this helps clarify, that's if you read beyond the first sentence.

    No not at all and yes I did read the whole post. Your first comment which I quoted in full called anyone who does not want to donate "selfish and greedy".
  • I used to be completely against having my organs used after my death, but changed my mind following personal family circumstances (I did a massive u-turn by becoming a live donor.)

    However, I would never berate anyone for not choosing to agree to having their organs used. It is a (very) personal choice for some people and we should all have our wishes respected. Having said that, I'm not sure how I stand on the argument that if you're not willing to donate, you shouldn't be willing to accept an organ if one was needed. Everybody should have the right to change their mind, after all.

    For those who argue that by not accepting a donor they'd be saving the NHS lots of money, I'm not sure this is true. Taking kidney failure as an example, if you were a potential candidate for transplant but opted to stay on dialysis, it would cost the NHS much more money to keep you alive with that treatment than if you were to have a transplant and take the required meds for the life of the kidney. (If anyone has evidence to the contrary I will be happy to stand corrected!) Obviously, if you choose not to have any treatment at all, then yes, you will save the NHS copious amounts of dosh!
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  • rustyboy21
    rustyboy21 Posts: 2,565 Forumite
    Just thought it might be worth correcting a few misconceptions here: If you are currently on the OPT-IN register, your family can refuse their consent, reagardless of your wishes, and your organs will not be used.

    If the OPT-OUT register is implemented, the family will not be asked for consent. The phrase 'the family will not have to make the decision' should be a hint. Unless a person objects, the organs can be taken if tissue matches are found. While I am on the register as it stands, I find this suggestion sets a dangerous precendent about the ownership of the person by the state.

    I would suggest a middle ground. At the age of 18, everyone should be asked to Opt-in, or register their wish otherwise. Once the decision is made, by the person, that decision stands unless changed by the person. Families should not be allowed to override the decision of the deceased. So, you are obliged to make a decision, and the state is obliged to respect your choice. No one else gets a say.

    The argument that those who refuse to donate (not for medical reasons) should be prohibited from recieving an organ is a difficult one. It has also been suggested that the death penalty could be reintroduced on the same basis - you sign at the age of 18 to state if you agree with the death penalty. If you are murdered, your killer can only be imprisoned if you do not. If you do agree with it, then you cannot appeal against it if you are convicted later of a capital offence.


    I mostly agree with you on your points.

    Having a register where you 'Opt-in' at the age of 18, or maybe your first provisional driving licence, and after that your family wouldn't be able to object, would be a good way of carrying out your wishes. You sign up to the register, you have made your decision, why should a relative refuse to carry your wishes out, because they are distraught over your death.

    The worry I have is people who refuse to register on the organ donor register, who would then take an organ if offered, if they need it. I agree donating/not donating is a personal choce, I am in full agreement with that. It just worries me and disapoints me that some people who are so against donating, would take seconds to agree to a donor organ if they needed it. It does seem rather selfish that they want others to help then if the need arose, but they wont reciprocate.

    But hey ! thats my thoughts and they will more than likely be shot down for them. But I would like someone to voice why they would take a donated organ, but wouldn't offer one if they needed to.

    I wish I could donate blood, but due to being 'High Risk ( Ie Gay )' I am unable to. Doesnt stop promiscuous Hetero's though does it?
  • I'm on the register but I would never challenge anyone who isn't, or ask them why they were not on the register. It's a personal decision to make and the reasons why people choose not to go on the register is no business of anybody else - not the state's and certainly not yours.
  • Mupette
    Mupette Posts: 4,599 Forumite
    Humphrey10 wrote: »
    Mupette, and anyone who can't donate organs for transplant, if you did want to donate your organs, you can donate your body or organs for research instead http://www.hta.gov.uk/bodyorganandtissuedonation.cfm

    no chance i don't want some trainee doctor playing skipping with my intestines...

    yes it does happen it's not a myth
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  • Reverbe
    Reverbe Posts: 4,210 Forumite
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    None. I'm on it - always have been always will be. Cant see why anyone wouldnt want to help someone else live or have a better quality of life. TBH its only going to rot or burn - why not let someone have them?
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  • brettcta
    brettcta Posts: 4,693 Forumite
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    Mupette wrote: »
    no chance i don't want some trainee doctor playing skipping with my intestines...

    yes it does happen it's not a myth

    proof por favor
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    they're - 'they are'
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  • suited-aces
    suited-aces Posts: 1,938 Forumite
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    I assume none of you selfish idiots who refuse be a donor would ever be so hypocritical as to accept a donor organ should you need it?
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  • I haven't read any of the replies (so feel free to enlighten me :p) I'm not on the register because I don't get it!

    I thought that if you were a donor they could call you up at any moment to donate??? You know like you have two kidney's this person has one and needs it desperately??

    If it's in death only? Then I have no problem in signing up!
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