unfairness in school. rant

dirtysexymonkey

denton6 wrote: »

I really dont think this would happen, i feel it should be open to any child who would like to try, it is only ever 3 children max with at least 2 teachers/ assistants, maybe it's just me but i think it shouldnt always be the same ever time. Yes there maybe a couple of Disruptive/ naughty children ever school has them , who would say they would want to go anyway, just given the chance might be good.Being the centre of attention may just be what they need and for them to feel important to. every child matters, every child is special, school just doesnt seem to see that.

giving the brats attention is the worst thing that could happen. why would you reward bad behaviour?

once theyve proven they can behave then they can be considered. and only considered. the best children should be chosen. the ones that are most suitable and the best behaved.

gingin_2

denton6 wrote: »

It is c of e school but not on the criteria to go, our local school. head has just completed his work/ degree to become a stand in curate at a church near to where he lives , few miles away from school< aswell as headteacher for the school.

My children go to a church school and the level of participation and support towards the church, from school families, is shockingly poor. I've turned up to services aimed specifically at the school children and perhaps 3 or 4 have attended. It's embarrassing for the school and I am not surprised if the head wants to reward those who take their time to support the school.

euronorris

denton6 wrote: »

Primary school, so dont even think they have had to speak, opening of supermarket said child cut the ribbon, poppy day service in town not needing to talk.

There are events when they will need to speak, even in primary school.

My primary school was Roman Catholic, so we would often have Masses, with readings, and of course the school nativity play every year.

I was often picked for the readings, and then as the narrator for the Nativity, because a) I wasn't shy and b) I could speak loudly (too loud for some people's liking! lol) , and clearly. You can rest assured that I wasn't picked for singing roles though, as I can't hold a note to save my life! lol

Although, come to think of it, I was also raised Catholic by my parents and so attended Church outside of school. Others are suggesting that religion is a link. Perhaps it played a bigger role than I realised? Though, I didn't go to the same Church as my headmistress. Mmmm.

dizziblonde

euronorris wrote: »

Do the newspapers pick out the child for pics? I can only remember a handful of times that this happened at my primary school, and one in particular where the newspaper chose the 2 kids for the photo.

I used to be the kid who was always picked for the photos that made it into the local paper. I hated it but the main reasoning was that my mum was a journalist on the paper so they knew they wouldn't have any bother with parental consent and the like. Such a joy having all my formative years of fashion mistakes and everything documented across the local area (the 1980s perm being a thing I'd really rather forget)!

Did have a head I worked for who blatantly played favourites with the nice stuff - would only ever pick the kids from the posh village and not the council estate (and we didn't really have any "naughties" in that school either - none that we wouldn't trust not to know how to behave when the need was required)... drove us all nuts but she was a right battleaxe of a woman who bullied the living daylights out of her staff too which gives you some idea of the dynamic of the place.

denton6

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

giving the brats attention is the worst thing that could happen. why would you reward bad behaviour?

once theyve proven they can behave then they can be considered. and only considered. the best children should be chosen. the ones that are most suitable and the best behaved.

take it you are not to keen on children. dont they all deserve a chance sometime.

gratefulforhelp_2

OP this is a classic topic for pupil/student voice. Primary schools should have a pupil forum now, this is an issue that could usefully be raised there.

denton6

gingin wrote: »

My children go to a church school and the level of participation and support towards the church, from school families, is shockingly poor. I've turned up to services aimed specifically at the school children and perhaps 3 or 4 have attended. It's embarrassing for the school and I am not surprised if the head wants to reward those who take their time to support the school.

I work every sat and sunday am so even if i wanted the boys to attend it wouldnt be possible. most of the time my parents take care of them. i wouldnt actually say it was a church school, its not in the school title or anything, just the local school.Plus the head doesnt attend the same church as the children involved.

dirtysexymonkey

denton6 wrote: »

take it you are not to keen on children. dont they all deserve a chance sometime.

once they misbehave they should have to prove that they have changed their ways.

you dont seem to be able to grasp that not everyone is a bleeding heart liberal who thinks that kids should be rewarded for misbehaving and bribed to not mess about. its that sort of thinking that has created the problems our society has today.

denton6

gratefulforhelp wrote: »

OP this is a classic topic for pupil/student voice. Primary schools should have a pupil forum now, this is an issue that could usefully be raised there.

sounds like a good plan, think it is a little worrying when a 10 year old has picked up on the fact only the ones who go to church get picked. maybe should add said children are also my sons best friends, so makes it bit more awkward.thanks

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

DD's primary school had a few children like that.

Purely coincidentally, their mothers were all part of the PTA clique. And no, you couldn't join as a non clique parent, as they would put you in charge of the portaloos or bins at the summer fete or doing the washing up at the Christmas fayre, up in the staff room, well away from all the christmas related activities, not seeing a soul all day.



Their children were always picked, despite their being largely unpopular with the other children due to meanness, mostly, along with having the attitude that they owned the class. Oh, and they were picked to be the class representatives as their mothers would go in and stress how devastated their child would be if somebody else's kid, whose parent wasn't a Governor/fundraiser/etc, were to be put forward for it.


Eventually, when the Head heard enough people say in the playground when presented with newsletters 'so what's Lucy B picked up the credit for this time?' and when special prizegivings were made, 'Where's Lucy B's prize for being the best student this term?' ('Lucy B' being the mother, whose entire self worth and importance was tied up with her daughters being picked for everything) and he himself was faced with Lucy B furious that a new teacher who 'doesn't understand MY daughters always get picked' choosing to photograph my child for the cover of the school prospectus, a discreet request was sent around for teachers to ensure that a wide range of children are considered for special occasions.


It happens. Now her eldest is at senior school and is as invisible as the rest of them. Oh, except that they chose my daughter on a couple of occasions for the receiving prizes, etc. There was a trail of feathers spat from the main hall all the way to the car park on those evenings :whistle: