Driving licence query

The_Turner

KTM_Gordo wrote: »

No it isn't.

As long as you can provide proof of identity, the worst case is you will be given the HORT-1 form which means you need to produce your documents at a Police station within seven days - although most checks are done electronically now.

Sorry but you're wrong and she doesn't have a licence to produce within 7 days.

If you fail to produce you are summonsed for failing to produce at the time you were stopped.

Yes you would be checked on the #DL via PNC but the offence is still on the statute books.

The_Turner

McKneff wrote: »

Of course it isnt, the police can know within seconds if you have a current licence, same as they can tell if you cary insurnace or not.

Please show me when that offence was withdrawn.

Trebor16

The_Turner wrote: »

Although it is still an offence to fail to produce it to a police officer on demand.

No it's not. It is an offence to fail to produce a driving licence within seven days having been required to do so by a police officer. But police have access to the DVLA driving licence database via the police national computer so it can be verified at the roadside if a person has a valid driving licence.

McKneff

I would imagine it hastn been withdrawn, possibly if the police cant find the trace of a licence and the person is adamant that he has one, then he is given a producer, and if he cant produce the licence then its an offence.

Rover_Driver

McKneff wrote: »

Of course it isnt, the police can know within seconds if you have a current licence, same as they can tell if you cary insurnace or not.

The requirement for a driver to produce their licence at the time is s.164(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.
s.164(6) Is the offence of failing to produce their licence at the time.
s.164(7b) Is a defence if the licence is produced at a Police Station within 7 days.

The_Turner

Trebor16 wrote: »

No it's not. It is an offence to fail to produce a driving licence within seven days having been required to do so by a police officer. But police have access to the DVLA driving licence database via the police national computer so it can be verified at the roadside if a person has a valid driving licence.

No, you are given 7 days to produce it. If you fail to do so the offence is comitted on the day you fail to produce at the roadside. Section 164 covers it.

The_Turner

Trebor16 wrote: »

No it's not. It is an offence to fail to produce a driving licence within seven days having been required to do so by a police officer. But police have access to the DVLA driving licence database via the police national computer so it can be verified at the roadside if a person has a valid driving licence.

I also suspect if you do your homework that it's still five days for an injury collision.

Big_Nige

You are very unlikely to be charged for failing to produce documents within the alloted time, It isn't called "the thin blue line" for nothing. Most police officers & staff will have the common sense to either give an extension on the 7 days if the person provided a loss report (from the police) or would check the PNC for DL details. Police are usually "out catching the real criminals" & not going to get embroilled in non production of driving licence if it has been reported lost & awaiting replacemnent from DVLA.

Rover_Driver

The_Turner wrote: »

I also suspect if you do your homework that it's still five days for an injury collision.

Makes no difference, if the licence is not produced on request an offence is committed. However there is a statutory defence if the licence is produced at a police station within 7 days.

It's all in s.164 Road Traffic Act 1988.

The_Turner

Rover_Driver wrote: »

Makes no difference, if the licence is not produced on request an offence is committed. However there is a statutory defence if the licence is produced at a police station within 7 days.

It's all in s.164 Road Traffic Act 1988.

I know which is why I posted.

The_Turner wrote: »

Although it is still an offence to fail to produce it to a police officer on demand.

Odd's are you will not be prosecuted for failing to produce a lost licence.