Agency can't put you forward as you aren't working?

LadyMissA

hcb42 wrote: »

No it is not London as it happens.

the point is that people make incorrect assumptions e.g. 400 people go for every role. THey do not. Businesses are still opening. Successful ones. None of my accounts team even answered an advert.

I dont understand your last statement, but I am sure it is not relevant to your ability to find work. Only you can make yourself more marketable and if 12 agents (who make their income from placing people in work) cannot be bothered, then there is something else wrong I am afraid.

I see adverts on https://www.reed.co.uk where you can see just how many apply and they are normally 200-400

One agency told me they gave up reading CV's for one job they had advertised.

Like say this one
http://www.reed.co.uk/job-details/London/Accountancy/Accounts-Assistant-Bookkeeper-excellent-benefits/?JobID=20807060&l=london&lid=38&lp=10&s=2&nr=200&sb=5&ns=True&da=327&ps=100


226 people and there is no way they have read 226 CV's

SarEl

Red_Elle wrote: »

We are straying but you are giving incorrect information on the thread and regardless of whether or not it affects you, other people may read it.

Red_Elle wrote: »

Look, you seem to think that you know a lot more about how recruitment (or anything else, for that matter) works than you actually do and reluctant to listen to advice.

Red_Elle wrote: »

I'll add passive aggressive to that as well then

Never anyone's else fault eh...

I feel a sense of deja vu coming on.

LadyMissA - I know that you are going to take this the wrong way, but I am going to say it anyway. Have you stopped to consider for one minute why your threads always end up this way? Perhaps if you would stop and listen to what people are saying to you then you would realise that you get a lot of good advice, which you reject out of hand in a very obnoxious manner, and that is what gets you the kind of responses that your threads inevitably turn in to. Have you consdiered for one minute that if you treat others, like the agency staff, in the same way as you do people here who have genuinely set out to try to help you, even if they end up exasperated with you, then it is hardly surprising that they are encouraging you to apply direct to employers. Because sorry, that isn't advice on how best to get a job. That is "advice" on how best to get you out of their hair. No employment agency, good, bad or indifferent, wants people to be getting jobs on their own when they could earn a fee for it. There are only two reasons why agencies want people "off their books" - they are either more trouble than they are worth, or they haven't got the skills to obtain and/or retain employment.

LadyMissA

hcb42 wrote: »

did you ever do it and what was the outcome?

I would have never got the job as it wasn't an offer

hcb42

LadyMissA wrote: »

I see adverts on www.reed.co.uk where you can see just how many apply and they are normally 200-400

One agency told me they gave up reading CV's for one job they had advertised.

Like say this one
http://www.reed.co.uk/job-details/London/Accountancy/Accounts-Assistant-Bookkeeper-excellent-benefits/?JobID=20807060&l=london&lid=38&lp=10&s=2&nr=200&sb=5&ns=True&da=327&ps=100


226 people and there is no way they have read 226 CV's

I can assure you I read all CVs even the ones who cannot be bothered writing a covering letter explaining why they are applying for a job 100s of miles from home, or how their skills might fit my vacancy. You are making incorrect assumptions once again...! No wonder the agencies give up.

Red_Elle

90% of those applicants either won't be entitled to work in the UK, or will live miles away from London, or will have no experience in accounts, or will be AAT or ACCA qualified and think that this negates the need for work experience, or have a CV with terrible attention to detail.
Why does it matter how many people apply anyway?
I'd be pretty disappointed with my ability to write a job advert if I got so many applications.

LadyMissA

SarEl wrote: »

I feel a sense of deja vu coming on.

LadyMissA - I know that you are going to take this the wrong way, but I am going to say it anyway. Have you stopped to consider for one minute why your threads always end up this way? Perhaps if you would stop and listen to what people are saying to you then you would realise that you get a lot of good advice, which you reject out of hand in a very obnoxious manner, and that is what gets you the kind of responses that your threads inevitably turn in to. Have you consdiered for one minute that if you treat others, like the agency staff, in the same way as you do people here who have genuinely set out to try to help you, even if they end up exasperated with you, then it is hardly surprising that they are encouraging you to apply direct to employers. Because sorry, that isn't advice on how best to get a job. That is "advice" on how best to get you out of their hair. No employment agency, good, bad or indifferent, wants people to be getting jobs on their own when they could earn a fee for it. There are only two reasons why agencies want people "off their books" - they are either more trouble than they are worth, or they haven't got the skills to obtain and/or retain employment.

I have never been rude to any agency thanks and whenever I call them and they say we have nothing I just say 'ok thanks', I accept what they say.

Not one has put me forward for anything and there is nothing wrong with me since i had my last job 5 years & if i was no good they would have taken me on from temp to perm and let me stay there that long, but now I feel there is as you had all pointed that out and thats great. Thanks.

hcb42

Of course Reed is one of the largest internet job sites there is. It is hardly representative of all jobs on the market either.

The OP had a trial day, that to me would have been a lifeline opportunity worth investing a day of one's life for, given this unemployment problem which has gone on for so long

Red_Elle

SarEl - absolutely spot on.

hcb42 - me too, always read them. Despite that fact that a lot of job seekers don't give me the same curtesy - they don't bother writing a covering letter, or applying to suitable jobs, yet I always reply to every single one.

hcb42

Red_Elle wrote: »

SarEl - absolutely spot on.

hcb42 - me too, always read them. Despite that fact that a lot of job seekers don't give me the same curtesy - they don't bother writing a covering letter, or applying to suitable jobs, yet I always reply to every single one.

Yes, my recent recruitment drive makes me think it is actually easy for most people to be in the top 10% of applicants - submit an application or CV that is asked for and make sure it is tailored and the letter in particular stands out (or covering email as is more often the case now) - as 90% clearly cannot be bothered!

Sambucus_Nigra

LadyMissA wrote: »

I have never been rude to any agency thanks and whenever I call them and they say we have nothing I just say 'ok thanks', I accept what they say.

Not one has put me forward for anything and there is nothing wrong with me since i had my last job 5 years & if i was no good they would have taken me on from temp to perm and let me stay there that long, but now I feel there is as you had all pointed that out and thats great. Thanks.

Bl00dy hell I feel like kicking you up the !!!!! - why the heck didn't you do that flippin trial. You aren't supposed to say 'ok thanks', you are supposed to press them for work. There probably is nothing wrong with you but by heck, you are driving us crazy! Please, stop with this woe is me attitude, and go out there and kick some !!!!! of your own with these agencies!