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  • suki1964
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    In an ideal world I agree there should be no !!!!!!, sadly people being what they are I realise this is highly unlikely to happen.


    I think you might want to edit that statement to "in my ideal world there would be no !!!!!!" because we don't all agree with you and you can only talk for yourself
  • Torry_Quine
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    suki1964 wrote: »
    I think you might want to edit that statement to "in my ideal world there would be no !!!!!!" because we don't all agree with you and you can only talk for yourself

    If you are arguing that even in what you would class as an ideal world !!!!!! would still exist then that is up to you but I strongly disagree.
    Lost my soulmate so life is empty.

    I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
    Diana Gabaldon, Outlander
  • suki1964
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    surfsister wrote: »
    divorced parents - the kids play them and grandparents off against each other for cash/phones etc Come Christmas, birthday they all have the latest iphone, laptop, game consoles etc

    Thats the biggest cop out Ive heard

    My step kids are obviously from divorced parents and no matter how much they tried the playing off against each other it didnt work because as responsible adults, no matter what our feelings were to each other, we all had a duty of care for the kids and we pulled together and backed each other up.
  • The driving restrictions are a good example actually as we all have to (or should) speed limits even if we thin we could safely go faster.

    There are controls on !!!!!! too. Parents are as free to use (0r not) parental controls on internet devices as they are to use (or not) safety seats and seatbelts in cars and drive within the speed limits.

    There is this thing called freedom of choice TQ, can you understand that it doesn't just apply to you?
  • Humphrey10
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    surfsister wrote: »
    how can parents control kids phones?? unless apple intervene of course.
    If a parent chooses to give a child a mobile phone costing £500 then that is their problem, not Apple's, nor the government, and they need to take all the responsibility for it.

    Anyway my iPhone doesn't have naked playgirl bunnies on it, I feel quite left out. Did your newspaper article say who I should contact to get these 'naked playgirl bunnies'?
  • Torry_Quine
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    beenstung wrote: »
    There are controls on !!!!!! too. Parents are as free to use (0r not) parental controls on internet devices as they are to use (or not) safety seats and seatbelts in cars and drive within the speed limits.

    There is this thing called freedom of choice TQ, can you understand that it doesn't just apply to you?


    I have the freedom of choice too, to not say what I do what be as wrong to me as saying it is to you.
    Lost my soulmate so life is empty.

    I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
    Diana Gabaldon, Outlander
  • I have the freedom of choice too, to not say what I do what be as wrong to me as saying it is to you.

    I have no objection to you saying whatever you like. I do object to your implications that other people's point of view are not as valid as yours is though.

    Do you get the difference?
  • Torry_Quine
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    beenstung wrote: »
    I have no objection to you saying whatever you like. I do object to your implications that other people's point of view are not as valid as yours is though.

    Do you get the difference?

    I am well aware what you're saying actually. Everyone's point of view is valid.
    Lost my soulmate so life is empty.

    I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
    Diana Gabaldon, Outlander
  • Lotus-eater
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    Well we could argue ad infinitum about your ideal world as against what you see as 'mine' although I would subscribe to the view that it's not my ideal. The majority is an interesting concept and I would disagree with your understanding of it.
    You disagree with my understanding of it?...........

    I'm out, it's like talking to a computer that is only programmed to understand one thing.
    Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
  • I am well aware what you're saying actually. Everyone's point of view is valid.

    Eureka :j

    So no more of this?
    if someone thinks an activity is harmful (in this case pornography) then they have a duty to do what they can to protect others.

    In saying thie above you suggest that you believe you have a duty to subject others to your point of view. I don't want to be protected but thank you very much for your concern.
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