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  • suited-aces
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    Interesting point of view. If the !!!!!! features a man having sex with a woman, would your husband be cheating on you with the woman, the man, or both?

    That's not fair, you can't make them put any thought into it!
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  • Gloomendoom
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    It would be cheating full stop with no need for further qualification.

    Where do you draw the line? There are plenty of simulated sex scenes on mainstream television. Would you regard watching those as cheating on your partner? What if you watch them together, would you be cheating on each other?
  • Torry_Quine
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    Where do you draw the line? There are plenty of simulated sex scenes on mainstream television. Would you regard watching those as cheating on your partner? What if you watch them together, would you be cheating on each other?

    There is a world of difference between a couple in a programme having sex as part of the storyline and !!!!!! which is just sex as a commodity. Saying that we try not to watch the kind of programmes where nudity and sex are a major feature as it's rarely needed or adds anything to the story.
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  • Gloomendoom
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    There is a world of difference between a couple in a programme having sex as part of the storyline and !!!!!! which is just sex as a commodity. Saying that we try not to watch the kind of programmes where nudity and sex are a major feature as it's rarely needed or adds anything to the story.

    So if a married couple watch pornography together then they are cheating on each other?
  • Lotus-eater
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    My OH would be very ashamed to use !!!!!! and that's not from me. I do see it as cheating as does he actually and that's not being small-minded. Personally I would be very hurt and feel that something was wrong with our marriage.
    I have no problem with this, you and your OH are entitled to have your relationship the way you want.

    It's when people start to dictate how others have their relationship and life I get miffed. I would stand up for your rights as much as anyone's.
    Exactly, exactly, spot on.

    This is the whole thread in a nutshell, we have no problems with whatever anyone on this thread, thinks about !!!!!!, or uses !!!!!!. If you hate it, then so be it, if you think it's cheating and your OH agrees with you, then you are a good couple.

    But when you try to put your ideologies and beliefs onto the rest of us........ well can't you see that may be a problem?
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  • Torry_Quine
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    So if a married couple watch pornography together then they are cheating on each other?

    They are both cheating on the marriage which is supposed to be about two people coming together without the need for anyone else in the sexual relationship.
    Exactly, exactly, spot on.

    This is the whole thread in a nutshell, we have no problems with whatever anyone on this thread, thinks about !!!!!!, or uses !!!!!!. If you hate it, then so be it, if you think it's cheating and your OH agrees with you, then you are a good couple.

    But when you try to put your ideologies and beliefs onto the rest of us........ well can't you see that may be a problem?


    I see what you're saying, however if someone thinks an activity is harmful (in this case pornography) then they have a duty to do what they can to protect others.
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  • Gloomendoom
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    They are both cheating on the marriage which is supposed to be about two people coming together without the need for anyone else in the sexual relationship.

    But there isn't anybody else... just some pictures of other people.
  • Lotus-eater
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    I see what you're saying, however if someone thinks an activity is harmful (in this case pornography) then they have a duty to do what they can to protect others.
    Yeah but we don't need protecting, we don't want protecting and quite frankly, most of the population just wants to be left alone from do gooders who want to set the world to rights in their image.

    Personally I think religion can be very damaging. But do you see me signing petitions and telling you on here that I think you have problems because you need it?
    No that's right, you don't and why? Because I respect your right to choose.
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  • Torry_Quine
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    But there isn't anybody else... just some pictures of other people.

    That is someone else though even if a picture.
    Yeah but we don't need protecting and quite frankly, most of the population just wants to be left alone from do gooders who want to set the world to rights in their image.

    Personally I think religion can be very damaging. But do you see me signing petitions and telling you on here that I think you have problems because you need it?
    No that's right, you don't and why? Because I respect your right to choose.

    I was merely answering the question put to me. I have the right to sign a petition just as you have the right not to. I totally respect your right to choose.
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  • Gloomendoom
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    That is someone else though even if a picture.

    How about erotic literature? Does a mental picture in a reader's mind of a couple having sex count as cheating too?
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