Prams on buses

PoorCharleyBear

I think all mothers and children should be forbidden to leave the house until they are contributing members of society and will not annoy other people in any shape or form.
Oh and when they are allowed out- make sure they are properly socialised too, even though they will never have had a chance to interact with other people.


I truly believe people in Uk seem to loathe children. I moved here last year and have had unbelievable rudeness because I am the mother of a small child.
I have been refused access onto buses because the driver thought the bus was too full (ie most seats taken)- tube is almost impossible to use with minimal lifts, ditto the trains. And heaven forbid you might need to eat out (as we were in hotel accom initially)...how dare we consider eating food when we have a child in tow. We have had rude people shout at us for taking a child to eat in a restaurant at 6pm.

And by the way my 4 year old still uses a stroller as she needs a daily sleep- I am not prepared to carry a sleeping child just because some crotchety people think that children should be locked away. How the UK population grows with attitudes like this I don't know.

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Irn-Bru-Kid wrote: »

So, two adults, three kids, two overloaded prams. They take up five seats, all available space for buggys/wheelchairs and they have purchased one ticket as granny had a pass.

So it would be better if the kids were in the pushchairs, the adults were carrying the shopping, but had to put it on the bus seats because it had to go somewhere? The situation would be just the same.

Or perhaps they should have got the kids on first, leaving their shopping and the folded down pushchairs on the pavement. Then they could have made a couple of trips back to the pavement to collect it all and bring it on. Presumable the folded down chairs and shopping would take a few more seats up, plus they've delayed the bus. Repeated again when they got off.

And it's hardly relevant what they paid for tickets; they have the same right to travel as anyone else.

katerinasol

smileylondongal wrote: »

that's nice, perhaps you won't have far to go??

Depends what far is, I used to walk 45 minutes to work and quite often do this now when I go round a friend's house. Oh no wait, is that this 'effort' thing that people speak of? :eek:

Anyway, there's always driving

Mupette

jayne2011 wrote: »

Theres no way I could fold my buggy down, stop my two yr old boy from running off, sort my shopping and hold my wriggling 8 month old baby. Its also not safe. I couldnt hold them both and hold on to anchor myself down. I think if theres no space, wait! Would you rather fold your buggy down, and crush your baby and have he/she fly through the air in the event of a crash?
Poor old Betty and Bertie can hold on tight where ever they sit, my baby can't. If they can't walk to rows futher down the bus, to be honest how are they going to get round town?

PinkLipgloss wrote: »

Exactly Jayne!

As I stated in an earlier post, it is not reasonable to expect mothers with babies to fold down their prams for safety reasons. That's the entire point of having pram/wheelchair bays - to make traveling by bus safer for babies and accessible to those in wheelchairs.

Then the "In my day...." posters jumped on the wagon saying how they managed to so why can't mothers today? Well, quite frankly, I refuse to carry my 4 month old baby on the bus for safety reasons. If a pram or wheelchair is in the bay - I will wait for the next bus. If the bay is being used by others - they should move - it is an area for prams and wheelchairs.

And as for all you "In my day....." posters - when I was a child cars were not always fitted with seatbelts. I survived okay. Does that mean my son will travel without a car seat / seat belt? Absolutely not!

sorry but really!! why cant you fold your buggy, baby under arm, teach your toddler to stand still and get your shopping on the bus...

I'm a in my day poster.. back in 1995 when i had my son, i managed, fold the buggy one handed, a weeks worth of shopping on the buggy, baby on hip, didnt have a car so car seat was only used when i was taken out by car, but more often the bus was my transport...

we all managed, why is it so difficult now.. or is it more not can't do but won't/why should i

MarilynMonroe_2

You learn to be tough when you get on a bus with a pram, people sit there and wont move when its FOR prams.
Sorry but if a woman with a stick is sitting there the pram has to go there for safety reasons, you cant have it blocking the aisle.

There are seats for the elderly with sticks as the sticker shows you and disabled in wheelchairs, the pram area isnt for them... its for prams and buggies.

MarilynMonroe_2

Mupette wrote: »

sorry but really!! why cant you fold your buggy, baby under arm, teach your toddler to stand still and get your shopping on the bus...

I'm a in my day poster.. back in 1995 when i had my son, i managed, fold the buggy one handed, a weeks worth of shopping on the buggy, baby on hip, didnt have a car so car seat was only used when i was taken out by car, but more often the bus was my transport...

we all managed, why is it so difficult now.. or is it more not can't do but won't/why should i

Did you ever think some people have had c -sections and just can't?
Don't be so presumptious of other people.

MarilynMonroe_2

Nicki wrote: »

Good for you. If you have a c section though you won't be able to drive for up to 6 weeks, and you will need to go back to the hospital for a post natal check first. Hope your hospital is within walking distance then, as if you don't take your pushchair on the bus with you, you'll have nowhere to put your baby while you are being examined, and you are unlikely to be able to manage to carry your baby and fold your new pushchair on the bus with a raw scar.

Not to mention when the scar can open up like mine did, and some women have infections for months, yet they still have to get to town to get shopping in... then people moan about you having a pram on a bus :mad:

MarilynMonroe_2

Bridesmaid83 wrote: »

Just sharing a story. It took me three weeks to build up the courage to leave the house alone with my newborn. I had a small bout of PND and when my bus came along, it was too packed for a pram and I had a complete emotional meltdown and walked home in tears. It's hard for a new mum to be out and about with the baby for the first time

Even now that my baby is 16 months old I feel uncomfortable getting on a bus with my buggy as everyone seems to stare. Why is that?

I had a driver shout 'watch out woman driver' when I was getting off the bus, the driver was one of these who braked hard and didnt let anyone sit down before he sped off - after that I didnt get on the bus for a good while. I think I probably had PND but he shouldnt have done that.

Mupette

MarilynMonroe wrote: »

Did you ever think some people have had c -sections and just can't?
Don't be so presumptious of other people.

and on a bus with pram, toddler, baby and a ton of shopping... they can get all that on a bus, but can't fold a buggy?

if they were that bad.. they wouldnt be there on the bus that day with the pram, toddler, baby and shopping...

Nicki

Mupette wrote: »

and on a bus with pram, toddler, baby and a ton of shopping... they can get all that on a bus, but can't fold a buggy?

if they were that bad.. they wouldnt be there on the bus that day with the pram, toddler, baby and shopping...

??????

I've had two c sections and in the first few weeks after both, I could lift one light shopping bag at a time, put it under a pushchair and push the pushchair along. Just as well really if I wanted to look after my family. I couldn't though have carried more than one shopping bag at a time, plus a pushchair and a baby. Nor could I have lifted an empty folded pushchair into a luggage rack I don't think. This isn't me being pathetic, it is also the medical advice you are given after a c section which is as big an operation as an old fashioned hysterectomy and requires a minimum of 6 weeks before you are permitted to lift anything heavier than your baby.

You may feel yourself to be supermum, but frankly its going to inconvenience the bus a heck of a lot more if a postpartum mum ruptures her newly healing uterus and haemmoredges all over the bus which will have to wait for a 999 ambulance and hope she survives until it gets there. It won't be a question of having to squeeze past a pushchair in that case but you'd all be getting off and waiting for the next bus to come along!