Prams on buses

MamaMoo_2

To all the people complaining about prams, I have to wonder whether you'd still want people folding down their buggies etc if the drover stopped for 2-3 minutes each time one got on or off so that the women can get on safely? If we say 4 prams get on/off during an hour journey, that's an extra 16-24 mins journey time.
And probably would be the cause of a vent on here "mothers with prams holding up the bus. How bl*ody inconsiderate"

Irn-Bru-Kid

ThumbRemote wrote: »

So it would be better if the kids were in the pushchairs, the adults were carrying the shopping, but had to put it on the bus seats because it had to go somewhere? The situation would be just the same.

Or perhaps they should have got the kids on first, leaving their shopping and the folded down pushchairs on the pavement. Then they could have made a couple of trips back to the pavement to collect it all and bring it on. Presumable the folded down chairs and shopping would take a few more seats up, plus they've delayed the bus. Repeated again when they got off.

And it's hardly relevant what they paid for tickets; they have the same right to travel as anyone else.

I think you're missing the point. Why should the whole bus make way for prams that are not being used as prams, but as (very large) shopping trolleys? Surely the spaces are intended for prams with kids in them?

And who said they had no right to travel? I was merely pointing out that only one fare was paid for when five seats and all available 'parking' space was used on the bus.

I think you may see it slightly different if you were refused access to the bus with a pram because one family had commandeered the front to accommodate their shopping. We can't just walk onto a bus and dump our shopping all over the floor, why do they get away with it because the shopping is in and on a pram?

The pram is not being used for its intended purpose therefore they should not be allowed to use it to store their shopping taking up valuable space for those who genuinely need it.

jamespir

Irn-Bru-Kid wrote: »

Today I witnessed something that typifies the reason why people have a problem with prams on buses.

Standing at the bus stop with me today was a mother, another lady who appeared to be the grandmother, three kids, two prams/buggys, one with two seats, the other single.

All three kids were out of the prams, the prams were absolutely packed with shopping, Iceland, Argos etc, so big bulky bags. The seat in the prams where the kids should be were also covered with shopping. So they get on the bus, all three kids take seats, mother and grandmother expect everyone else to move and then they packed out the front of the bus making it almost impossible for people to get on and off.

So, two adults, three kids, two overloaded prams. They take up five seats, all available space for buggys/wheelchairs and they have purchased one ticket as granny had a pass.

could have been a family day rider

mumps

Nicki wrote: »

??????

I've had two c sections and in the first few weeks after both, I could lift one light shopping bag at a time, put it under a pushchair and push the pushchair along. Just as well really if I wanted to look after my family. I couldn't though have carried more than one shopping bag at a time, plus a pushchair and a baby. Nor could I have lifted an empty folded pushchair into a luggage rack I don't think. This isn't me being pathetic, it is also the medical advice you are given after a c section which is as big an operation as an old fashioned hysterectomy and requires a minimum of 6 weeks before you are permitted to lift anything heavier than your baby.

You may feel yourself to be supermum, but frankly its going to inconvenience the bus a heck of a lot more if a postpartum mum ruptures her newly healing uterus and haemmoredges all over the bus which will have to wait for a 999 ambulance and hope she survives until it gets there. It won't be a question of having to squeeze past a pushchair in that case but you'd all be getting off and waiting for the next bus to come along!

I've had a C section and hysterectomy, I just got main shopping delivered and walked to local shops for bits and pieces more to get out than anything. I also occasionally went shopping with my OH or sister.

My baby was over 10lb and gained weight rapidly so I could lift quite alot of things reallyby the time he was six weeks and about 12 lbs.

ThumbRemote

Mupette wrote: »

I'm a in my day poster.. back in 1995 when i had my son, i managed, fold the buggy one handed, a weeks worth of shopping on the buggy, baby on hip, didnt have a car so car seat was only used when i was taken out by car, but more often the bus was my transport...

So because you struggled, everyone else has to for the rest of time?

adouglasmhor

fluffnutter wrote: »

I tend to agree. Although it's worth pointing out that all these types of sign are merely courtesies. It's not a crime to sit there; it's all about assessing the situation, having a bit of compassion and making a judgement about whose need is greatest.

Something that this girl with the pram clearly failed to do. Or did so with so little grace as to render her rude and unpleasant. Great. We should jump up to help people who are rude and unpleasant. After all that's what the sign says we should do.

What happened to just working it out for ourselves and being kind to each other??

Actualy to make a diabled person move is not legal. The bus driver needs a bit of training in not being a knob.

MarilynMonroe_2

Mupette wrote: »

and on a bus with pram, toddler, baby and a ton of shopping... they can get all that on a bus, but can't fold a buggy?

if they were that bad.. they wouldnt be there on the bus that day with the pram, toddler, baby and shopping...

I take you had one then and are speaking from experience?

No? thought not

ThumbRemote

adouglasmhor wrote: »

Actualy to make a diabled person move is not legal.

Really? Care to tell us which law that is.

adouglasmhor

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Really? Care to tell us which law that is.

Equalities act 2010. In the circumstances described.

Amanita_2

ThumbRemote wrote: »

So because you struggled, everyone else has to for the rest of time?

No - obviously just elderly ladies with mobility issues.

All I can say is that I hope one day that mother in the OPs original post is treated as badly in her old age by someone in her grandaughter's generation.