Income support

Mupette

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

The role of an agency is to sell their services and their clients, not to help people.

oh dear god.. right then i'll do it how everyone else does it then, for gods sake, i have a nice friendly chat with my old agency, they were nice and helpful... i thought to myself this is great, takes the stress out of it a bit for me, someone helping me get some work, so i can get off benefits, stop being a disabled scrounger, its always the same few that nit pick, although just this once oldernotwiser this time you havent been so bad...

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I wasn't correcting your grammar etc. You said " me and my son will struggle more and get into debt," and I couldn't see how your son could be getting into debt if he's a child.

obvoulsy my son can't get into debt (shouldnt be able to anyway) as he is too young for credit.


anyway i think this thread is done and dusted, damned for having cap in hand for 2 years, like it was my fault i got MS, damned with the way i try and look for work, dammed because i am not living in sin and dammned because OH isnt handing over his wages to my household, you know the one he doesnt even live in yet...

stroodes

Mupette, I do feel for you and we are not all judging you, perhaps you could speak to an advisor at the job centre who could give you more advice and help in returning to work, sorry I cant be of more help, I wish you all the best for the future.

Mupette

thanks stroodes

yes i should go, get some adive from the experts, there is supposed to be a disabled advisor available so hopefully will ask for a referral to remploy.


Is that ok with everyone?

GlasweJen

Mupette, there are other employment agencies for disabled people but they tend to be small and grouped by area do best to google for them.

Also you can ask to see a disability advisor at the job centre who can help you find work.

Remember if you do get a job access to work can fund adaptive equipment like special chairs, telephones, keyboards, software and they also have funds for transport to work, interpreters/helpers (example note takers) and courses for your employer (awareness training and stuff like that). I'm not sure if access to work fund temp jobs but if anything more long term came up then it's something to consider.

Oldernotwiser

Mupette wrote: »

oh dear god.. right then i'll do it how everyone else does it then, for gods sake, i have a nice friendly chat with my old agency, they were nice and helpful... i thought to myself this is great, takes the stress out of it a bit for me, someone helping me get some work, so i can get off benefits, stop being a disabled scrounger, its always the same few that nit pick, although just this once oldernotwiser this time you havent been so bad...

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I was simply pointing out that agencies aren't part of the caring services and their purpose in life is to make money for their company, however friendly they may come across. How you can object to this comment beats me!

Anyway, surely the Permitted Work scheme is the ideal vehicle for you to move back into the workplace?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/BenefitsTaxCreditsAndOtherSupport/Illorinjured/DG_171909

Sixer

I think Mupette has come in for some unfair criticism.

She has MS - a fluctuating condition. She is capable of work at some points but not at others. So a full-time, permanent job is not really a viable option for her. ESA makes allowance for this and so she is entitled to keep on claiming it, even at the points where she is capable of work.

As a single parent household, she comes under income-based ESA. When she gets married, she will no longer be entitled to the benefit - not because her fitness to work situation has changed, but because her household's financial capacity to support her has changed.

It therefore seems entirely sensible and not in the least deceitful for Mupette to start making plans about doing work she can do during those points in her fluctuating condition.

Oldernotwiser

But, again, isn't that the sort of situation that the Permitted Work scheme is intended to cover?

Sixer

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

But, again, isn't that the sort of situation that the Permitted Work scheme is intended to cover?

Not really my point, that, is it? Mupette wasn't criticised for looking into possible temp work outside of the permitted work scheme instead of inside it: she was accused of swinging the lead vis a vis claiming ESA at all.

The actual situation is this: as a single parent with a serious and fluctuating medical condition, she is entitled to claim ESA all the time. As someone in a live-in relationship with a working partner, she will not be entitled to claim ESA.

Nothing to do with swinging the lead at all and she shouldn't have been accused of doing so.

Although advice about how permitted work could help Mupette in her situation is, of course, helpful. Endless cross-questioning in a judgemental tone and following on from baseless accusations doesn't get anyone anywhere.

Oldernotwiser

Sixer wrote: »

Not really my point, that, is it? Mupette wasn't criticised for looking into possible temp work outside of the permitted work scheme instead of inside it: she was accused of swinging the lead vis a vis claiming ESA at all.

The actual situation is this: as a single parent with a serious and fluctuating medical condition, she is entitled to claim ESA all the time. As someone in a live-in relationship with a working partner, she will not be entitled to claim ESA.

Nothing to do with swinging the lead at all and she shouldn't have been accused of doing so.

Although advice about how permitted work could help Mupette in her situation is, of course, helpful. Endless cross-questioning in a judgemental tone and following on from baseless accusations doesn't get anyone anywhere.

And just when did I do any of those things? You need to go back and re read the thread before throwing accusations around!

bored_at_home

at last, someone who sees things how they are. for god sake guys give the lady a break.
as she said unless you have the illness its hard to comprehend the obstacles that come with it, the varying condition which not only gives periods of relapse you cannot predict, but days where you suddenly wilt with fatigue you cannot sleep off and could be knocked down with a feather, where on others you can be capable of achieving something workwise. what happens when cannot be predicted.
there are also laws for descriminating against such folk by employers, but in the realworld try getting a job when there are dozens of healthy applicants who dont need special consideration, unlimited sick days and prolonged absences , etc . an agency where she is known is a foot in the door to prove herself is her best hope.
as for the disability adviser at the jobcentre.... yeah right. as much use as a chocolate teapot..