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"terminate and test 5 No electric sockets" ???

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  • Leif wrote: »
    The project manager walked around the house a month ago, and he would have seen that the sockets had been replaced. The fuse box had been sorted long before then, but that is how he could have seen that I had done work. I received the certificate about a week ago, although the fuse box was replaced a few months ago.


    Excellent. You had a Project Manager.

    When did the Project Manager tell you it was OK to replace the sockets?
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    Excellent. You had a Project Manager.

    When did the Project Manager tell you it was OK to replace the sockets?

    I wish you would be less agressive and unpleasant. I do not need permission to work in my house. Or am I supposed to stop doing anything for two months while they dilly dally around? Or am I supposed to become an expert in everything before I engage a builder?

    I got a company to redo the electrics in the kitchen, replace the fuse box, and install a new boiler. They should have done it by mid August. That was what they quoted for, and said they would do. But they didn't. The test certificate is 12 September. :mad: There would have been weeks with no-one doing anything in the house, except me doing jobs such as patching walls, then painting. When did he tell me it was not okay to work in the house? In fact, when did he tell me the boiler had been commissioned? He didn't. I found out by accident. How am I supposed to know not to touch anything electrical long after they have rewired the kitchen.

    What I do not understand is that after the certificate was issued, I asked for a total due, and he did not include this new item. Recently after I complained about the cost of the electrics, and the numerous faults with their work (such as removing a socket), he visited the house and then issued this extra bill. Incidentally, he has lied to me in the past, saying he was a member of the FMB, and he isn't because I checked with them.
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  • pauletruth
    pauletruth Posts: 1,133 Forumite
    hang on they did the install. left and came back to test and cert it. is that not just a little odd. you would expect the cert/check to be done at the completion of the job,
  • Just a quick question.

    Did you live in this house at the time?
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    Just a quick question.

    Did you live in this house at the time?

    No. I am doing the house up so that I can move in and stop renting. That's why I can't sit around for a month or two examining my navel fluff while they !!!!!! about. That's why I patched up almost all of their mistakes, such as knocking plaster off a wall, knocking chips out of architraves, poor caulking, foam sticking out of wall below window boards etc. But I digress.
    pauletruth wrote: »
    hang on they did the install. left and came back to test and cert it. is that not just a little odd. you would expect the cert/check to be done at the completion of the job,

    I asked them to get the electrics ready for the install date which was 6 August. In fact they did their work by the start of August. Come the install the project manager said they would do the fuse box later, no idea why, and they certified the fuse box on 12 September which must have been about the time it went in. So there was a period of more than a month or so during which time I should not have done anything, and I was not told that, and I am not an electrician so I did not know.

    I have determined that I did replace some of the 5 sockets if not all between the first electricians visit in early August or late July, and the certification in September at least 6 weeks later.

    What I do not understand is that they would have put in the fuse box, and presumably tested all sockets soon after, and then certified the box. How would it have been different had it been the original socket plates or ones I put it? In which case why was that cost not already part of the original fee?
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  • Leif wrote: »
    I engaged a builder to get a kitchen fully ready for a new kitchen, and asked for a full rewire of the kitchen, with new sockets


    So these new sockets......

    Any above the counter tops? On tiling perhaps?

    Hardwired appliances?
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    So these new sockets......

    Any above the counter tops? On tiling perhaps?

    Hardwired appliances?

    I'm not sure why that is relevant. Yes there are some sockets above the counter tops, and a hard wired oven, hob (I think) and boiler. All sockets were put in by the electricians. That would have been part of the kitchen rewire cost.
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  • Leif wrote: »
    I'm not sure why that is relevant. Yes there are some sockets above the counter tops, and a hard wired oven, hob (I think) and boiler. All sockets were put in by the electricians. That would have been part of the kitchen rewire cost.


    As you have stated it was the same people doing the electrics to the kitchen & consumer unit the job can hardly be finished before the kitchen fitters go in now can it?
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  • Leif
    Leif Posts: 3,727 Forumite
    As you have stated it was the same people doing the electrics to the kitchen & consumer unit the job can hardly be finished before the kitchen fitters go in now can it?

    Why not? The kitchen fitter (very experienced) expected to find live sockets and a new consumer unit, and had to chase after the builder to get electrics in a state suitable for his installation.
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  • fluffpot
    fluffpot Posts: 1,264 Forumite
    When you asked what the charge was for, they replied

    "As explained at our meeting last week the electricians had to remake the sockets fitted by yourself and test this is the cost for this."

    If it was me, I'd be asking why they had to 'remake' the sockets. If they had been incorrectly installed then perhaps they had to refit correctly? And if they retested them then you should be entitled to a copy of the test results
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