you are what you eat

JoeyEmma

I think this thread has been hijacked by vegetarians!

Back in the day when we were hunter gatherers (as Ray Mears would say) we would have eaten every bit of an animal. I'm with the school of thought that he and Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall are in where you shouldn't waste anything.

Oh and I was vegetarian for 8 years!

On a seperate note. I am a psychiatric nurse and it drives me mad when I ask people (often with depression etc) how their diet is and what they have eaten the day before and they reply "chips, burger, crisps, chocolate". Seriously, its not rocket science. Eat crap, feel like crap. At least try and eat an apple a day and all that before asking for tablets to make you feel better.

Sarahsaver

My haggis was definitely not veggie ! Made with real liver, lungs and so on. Waste not want not! I was at one time a Vegan and I am fitter and slimmer now than I was then, but I like myself more now than I did then so I think I look after myself better because of that.
Ex H wanted me to be fatter. Much fatter :eek:

competitionscafe

There is a difference though between eating every part of the animal (kidney, heart, etc) and mechanically recovered meat, which is used in cheap sausages, burgers and the like: http://www.bigbarn.co.uk/food/articles/index.php?articleid=140

thriftlady_2

yenom wrote:

and another thing.. why do people ask their children wht they would like to eat for dinner? (heard several people yesterday in supermarket asking this)
no wonder that obesity levels shot up if left to children to decide?

Well, that's plain madness :rolleyes: Adults should be in control of their children's nutrition. The most choice my kids get is 'do you want your egg boiled or scrambled ?'

Nicki

JoeyEmma wrote:

On a seperate note. I am a psychiatric nurse and it drives me mad when I ask people (often with depression etc) how their diet is and what they have eaten the day before and they reply "chips, burger, crisps, chocolate". Seriously, its not rocket science. Eat crap, feel like crap. At least try and eat an apple a day and all that before asking for tablets to make you feel better.

I'm glad you weren't my CPN then! I had a great, healthy diet for years, then succumbed to a bad bout of PND, which ended up with being hospitalised for a few months. During my illness I could no more have cooked a meal for the family, than walked to the moon. An inability to look after yourself is one of the most common symptoms of a depressive illness - it is often the result not the cause of the condition though - and some snotty nurse telling me to have an apple rather than providing the treatment I needed would probably have made the difference between a suicide bid succeeding, and being here a few years later, fit and well, and able to get really annoyed about a post like this!

TKP_3

Mrs_A. wrote:

as the title of this thread suggests yesterday i bought this book as asda its an eating plan to change the way you live your life etc (you might have seen it on tv).
i read the book and was utterly fascinated i suffer from digestive problems, depression, seroiusly overweight etc.
the book makes sense to me
So what i want to know is
should i rush out and buy a juicer
should i rush out and buy fruit and veg to juice in said juicer
anyone tried it and do they feel any better
and finally do i really need all these supplements she goes on about, i only eat chocolate and crisps and chips (VERY BAD I KNOW) my gp is always nagging me about my diet.
regards
mrs a

How are yo getting on Mrs A? Have you managed any changes yet?

Mrs_A.

hiya
yeah im having porridge with a bit of fruit for breakfast everyday,
still eating the odd chocolate bar but no where near as much as i used to.
im making fruit smoothies everyday
im trying to add more veggies but they are so dull and boring, cant remember the last time i had any crisps.
still having some chips
as mr tesco says every little helps
im getting there, its not easy, but im determined
regards
mrs a

Mrs_A.

Nicki wrote:

I'm glad you weren't my CPN then! I had a great, healthy diet for years, then succumbed to a bad bout of PND, which ended up with being hospitalised for a few months. During my illness I could no more have cooked a meal for the family, than walked to the moon. An inability to look after yourself is one of the most common symptoms of a depressive illness - it is often the result not the cause of the condition though - and some snotty nurse telling me to have an apple rather than providing the treatment I needed would probably have made the difference between a suicide bid succeeding, and being here a few years later, fit and well, and able to get really annoyed about a post like this!

i have to agree here, not a helpful post, and can i just add the cpn's i have had are not like the op either. by the way i am also a registered nurse and i would never give advice like the op did
regards
mrs a

yenom_2

Nicki wrote:

I'm glad you weren't my CPN then! I had a great, healthy diet for years, then succumbed to a bad bout of PND, which ended up with being hospitalised for a few months. During my illness I could no more have cooked a meal for the family, than walked to the moon. An inability to look after yourself is one of the most common symptoms of a depressive illness - it is often the result not the cause of the condition though - and some snotty nurse telling me to have an apple rather than providing the treatment I needed would probably have made the difference between a suicide bid succeeding, and being here a few years later, fit and well, and able to get really annoyed about a post like this!

Perhps the point is that if people started looking after themselves to start with, i.e the basics- eating healthier food, exercising, then this may lead to more energy, feeling happier, more optimism, more autonomy, more socialising, therfore more support, leading to better mental and physical health. Instaed of leaving it to tablets as a possible cure.

Do you leave your health in the hands of proffessionals or yourself?

How many people have said just on this thread how much happier/better they feel when eating heathier food? I also feel poor food leads to poor concentration for children in schools, more irritability generally in life, more stress, people are too tired to do anything etc

I know it isn't this simplistic, and there are predispositions to certain conditions. but is healthy food not a good start?

CAFCGirl

I am a psychiatric nurse

Seriously, its not rocket science.

Hmmmm funny that I always kind of thought it sort of was.....

As a psychiatric nurse I would have thought that you have an understanding that with certain conditions, cooking, which we'll now call rocket science is actually quite difficult.

I dont know much about chronic depression but I was under the impression that even some of the basics become quite a struggle so to be honest I can see how it is very easy to reach for a bag of crisps.

Hell I've got mild depression and I find crisps and choc VERY easy to reach for.

At least try and eat an apple a day and all that before asking for tablets to make you feel better.

I'd now just like to point out that when I was diagnosed I wasnt asked any questions about diet or exercise, and was simply prescribed Fluoxetine without a word of the side effects etc. So not everyone asks for magic tablets!

Sometimes doctors and nurses fobb you off with them because they've got better things to be doing with their time..... seemingly eating an apple a day.

Sorry JoeyEmma, I know I might have been a bit harsh but a little sympathy for other people does go a long way.

Plus its pretty obvious that Mrs A is making an effort to do better with her diet otherwise this whole thread wouldnt have existed!!!

And getting back on topic after my wee rant.........

Mrs A, any favorite smoothies yet?