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Christening....which religion.....
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Tiddlywinks wrote: »Good grief, some people are acting as if a christening is a sort of evil ceremony where the soul is promised to the dark side - do let's all get a grip.
Of course not, because there's no such thing as "dark side" except in human behaviour. Actual personification of evil is a Christian invention too (or at least something taken from other older religions, like much of Christianity).0 -
Lotus-eater wrote: »That's like saying how many people support Manchester United without ever hearing of football?
Of course, and that is because both football and religion are human inventions.0 -
Well yes, but just because religion is a human invention, doesn't mean it isn't real. Doesn't mean god isn't real, doesn't mean Jesus wasn't the son of god.Of course, and that is because both football and religion are human inventions.
It doesn't mean religion is bad either. Nor does it mean it is good.Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.0 -
What I can't get my head round is how, if she were to die tomorrow, my two year old daughter would be condemned to burn in hell for eternity just because she was never Christened. Any God who would bring down such horrors on my innocent little girl has to be pure evil, and I have no time for anybody who believes such depraved nonsense.0
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what i can't get my head round is how, if she were to die tomorrow, my two year old daughter would be condemned to burn in hell for eternity just because she was never christened. Any god who would bring down such horrors on my innocent little girl has to be pure evil, and i have no time for anybody who believes such depraved nonsense.
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(that's supposed to be the clappy smilies, but they don't seem to work)Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear0 -
i live in a muslim country that asserts no pressure on me or my daughter to become muslims--her mother is---only in the uk do people feel duty bound to be a relgion!- i would much rather be a muslim than a christian but i will die happy!
Which country is that?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
What I can't get my head round is how, if she were to die tomorrow, my two year old daughter would be condemned to burn in hell for eternity just because she was never Christened. Any God who would bring down such horrors on my innocent little girl has to be pure evil, and I have no time for anybody who believes such depraved nonsense.
I certainly don't believe that and would totally condemn any Christian who did. She is too young to have made any decision and as such God will welcome her with open arms.
Matthew 10:14Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0 -
Original sin - its already been brought up in this thread (I think it was by a Catholic). It is standard Church doctrine, isn't it?0
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Lotus-eater wrote: »Well yes, but just because religion is a human invention, doesn't mean it isn't real. Doesn't mean god isn't real, doesn't mean Jesus wasn't the son of god.
It doesn't mean religion is bad either. Nor does it mean it is good.
So if the religion is man made but there is an underlying reality of a deity or three, why aren't people capable of discovering that without recourse to formalised Christianity telling them about it? And how do we know that any of the humanly invented religions are correct?0 -
Original sin - its already been brought up in this thread (I think it was by a Catholic). It is standard Church doctrine, isn't it?
No it isn't standard church doctrine. Being christened or not makes absolutely no difference to your final destination.
As far as I'm aware this was a catholic idea and may still be but to me it is very cruel and totally wrong. :mad:Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0
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