Christening....which religion.....

Torry_Quine

erichamster wrote: »

That's because it's not valid, not at all. It is would not even be worth talking about, if it were not for the fact that so many of us are deluded just like you, and seek to use their beliefs and the power that comes from their numbers to ruin the rest of our lives. What is your faith based on?

I certainly don't seek to ruin anyone's life, far from it.

My faith is based on my personal experience.

de1amo

i keep seeing this thread and ask myself---you can only be CHRİSTened into christianity!---its not like shopping and you can choose a religion off a shelf and go to a CHRİSTİAN church and be CHRİSTEN muslim!

i live in a muslim country that asserts no pressure on me or my daughter to become muslims--her mother is---only in the uk do people feel duty bound to be a relgion!- i would much rather be a muslim than a christian but i will die happy!

erichamster

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Which I think that many believing children do.

Which it's clear that many 'believing children' have been coerced and indoctrinated into thinking that there is no other option than to do.
Labelling a child as christian is as ridiculous as labelling a child as a liberal democrat.

erichamster

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I certainly don't seek to ruin anyone's life, far from it.

My faith is based on my personal experience.

Perhaps not you personally, but the establishment you stand for and the leaders of your faith and the many other powerful like it, certainly do.

Ah, the old hallucinatory vision reason, what makes you think your religious vision is more real than the time I dreamed I could fly? Once I woke up I was pretty sure I shouldn't jump out the window and give it another go.

erichamster

de1amo wrote: »

i keep seeing this thread and ask myself---you can only be CHRİSTened into christianity!---its not like shopping and you can choose a religion off a shelf and go to a CHRİSTİAN church and be CHRİSTEN muslim!

What are you on about?

System

erichamster wrote: »

Perhaps not you personally, but the establishment you stand for and the leaders of your faith and the many other powerful like it, certainly do.

Ah, the old hallucinatory vision reason, what makes you think your religious vision is more real than the time I dreamed I could fly? Once I woke up I was pretty sure I shouldn't jump out the window and give it another go.

What a pretentious comment! "the establishment you stand for" ? Because one has a faith and a religion does NOT mean one stands for the establishment nor even for the leaders of ones "faith"...which incidentally is NOT the same as 'religion'.

btw I have also dreamt I could fly...but that is just what it was a dream! My faith , such as it is , is based on what I know, which is based on my power to reason.

Because I cannot 'prove' to your satisfaction the existence of God, no more proves his absence , than you not being able to 'prove' his absence means God exists .

On death only one of us is 'possibly' going to be able to say "I told you so!"...if it's not me...it certainly won't be you lol

de1amo

ignore me i am devoid of religion--im happy!

Torry_Quine

erichamster wrote: »

Perhaps not you personally, but the establishment you stand for and the leaders of your faith and the many other powerful like it, certainly do.

Ah, the old hallucinatory vision reason, what makes you think your religious vision is more real than the time I dreamed I could fly? Once I woke up I was pretty sure I shouldn't jump out the window and give it another go.

If church leaders truly follow Jesus and His ways then they will not be ruining other's lives. That said I am not personally responsible for how others may live their life. Leaders in all spheres of life can go away from what the organisation stands for.

There is a world of difference between hallucinations and a real religious experience.

pwllbwdr

Purbeck wrote: »

On death only one of us is 'possibly' going to be able to say "I told you so!"...if it's not me...it certainly won't be you lol

The inevitability of Pascal's wager turning up in a thread like this is more certain than Godwin's law.

How many people have converted to Christiianity without having been exposed to it by others or the Bible?

Lotus-eater

pwllbwdr wrote: »

How many people have converted to Christiianity without having been exposed to it by others or the Bible?

That's like saying how many people support Manchester United without ever hearing of football?