Not mentioning the T word at all

EstherH

Oh Right thanks PIXIEDUST. I put food in on Amazon but it just came up with cookery books. I have used AF in the past but it seems to be a lot of cakes, crisps chocs etc and I try to avoid buying them. Not always successfully but at least in small amounts it isn't as bad as bulk buying them then bulk eating them all lol.

kidcat

Amazon are selling household cleaners etc in large packs.

Gigervamp

Kidcat and D&DD sending you both hugs.

Esther, I've seen people on the groceries and grabbit boards posting about groceries at Amazon. If you look on the drop down box at Amazon you'll see there's a groceries department now.

grandma247

Hugs for d&dd and kidkat.

Kaz2904

D&DD, I'm so sorry to hear about your poor son. Hope you are all having a nice relaxing evening after the shock of the day.
I had a look on AF but can't see free delivery. There is an offer for a second box delivered free though which seems fairly good value. I'm the same with AF, I haven't bought anything yet as it mainly seems to be the stuff I try to avoid buying in bulk as it gets eaten as fast as it's bought.
DH is now fast asleep on the sofa. We're both still up waiting for the girls to be properly asleep so we can go on up. I still have CiN on. It always gets to me. DH says I'm so soppy, he can't believe I cry at everything (including adverts ). Both the kids do too though. I think it's just one of those things. I see so many awful things at work and very rarely cry about anything there. Maybe it's my coping mechanism.

I felt so sad for the little boy, Sam, who was living in poverty. He was wearing girls clothes to school and getting bullied. He looked quite grubby too. I had a little cry about that. DS was watching it and asking about him. I explained that it was like if we were too poor to buy him clothes, he would end up wearing DD's cast offs. He said
"Well, I would if I had to"
I think he kind of half way got it but not really. He's almost 8. Both kids can be really empathic and are so kind to other children but I think that when, as an adult, I find it hard to comprehend, it must be really difficult for them to get their heads around. So terrible to see children suffering.
I had a good blub about Elliot's family too.

Kidcat, I hope you start feeling a return to normality very soon. Shame on the school for ringing constantly. Surely they know you're ill?

A friend of mine was telling me about when her children were small, aged about 6 and 2. Her husband was working abroad and her parents were on holiday. She got flu and she said she spent 2 days on the sofa unable to move. She was thankful that her fridge was stocked with drinks that the boys could get to (I think her eldest just helped himself for them both) and they survived on fruit. She said he didn't go to school because she just couldn't get him there. That must have been frightening for them all really with no help available. I've been lucky and only had flu once, when I was 18. God knows what I would do if I had it now.
Night all. Sweet dreams xx

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Kaz2904 wrote: »

I felt so sad for the little boy, Sam, who was living in poverty. He was wearing girls clothes to school and getting bullied. He looked quite grubby too.

I didn't see it,


but unless they are saying 'This is Sam and his parents are drug addicts but social services can't be bothered to take him into care', there is absolutely no reason for him to be forced to wear girl's clothes. No way. The lowest level of benefits payable is enough to feed and clothe a child, and pay for hot water and soap. OK, you can't really do a great deal else, but you can certainly keep a rented property over your head and keep a child in a respectable manner.

In any case, there's always the school lost property bin to rifle through for extras if you're absolutely brassic. Or visiting the local clothes bank/outside charity shops late at night. But with a T shirt at 99p and joggers at £2 in Primark, no way can that be unaffordable - you would miss a meal yourself first. Wouldn't you?

And there is no way you would allow your child to be paraded on national TV so everybody knows he wears girl clothes and you didn't put his welfare above your own.

******

Anyway, I am sitting in front of an allegedly impartial documentary which is actually desperately scrabbling around to find tenuous evidence of this being the End times :cool:. Load of old tosh. And it pretends to be unbiased?

I'm getting grumpy. I should go to bed.


xxx

Hardup_Hester

Jojo
Whilst food & clothing may be available at low prices, some parents do not have the wherewithal to access such things, between the school where I work & my daughter being a foster carer I have witnessed parents who put their needs for drugs/alcohol/fags before the needs of the children, parents who are incapable of providing food on a regular basis, who live in such chaos (12 kids, 3 dogs, 5 cats, none housetrained) they cannot find clean clothes in the 6 inches of carp on the floor, who don't realise their kids are crawling with nits & being bitten by bed bugs.
Michael Wilshaw the new head of OFSTED says that where parents are failing it is up to the schools to step in & offer the children those thing that are lacking at home, let's see if it happens!
Hester

Gigervamp

I didn't watch CiN, but that story of the boy having to wear girls clothes rings a bell. There was a story on TV a while ago about a boy having to wear girls clothes because his family were so poor. Was he being brought up by his single father? I'm sure there was a discussion about it over on the DT forum.

Gah. Didn't get to bed until 2am and I've just been woken by the dog barking because she was desperate to go out. Of course, I'm the only one who gets woken by her barking, hubby and DS2 are oblivious and they are the ones who wanted a dog. :mad:

As it's still pretty dark here, I won't be letting the chickens out for a while yet so was hoping for a little longer in bed.

paidinchickens

Morning

I didn't watch CiN but IMO

BRING BACK THE NIT NURSE!!


Ok the boys have never suffered but DD used to come home everyday with "lodgers" The house smelt like a tea tree factory for years. Long hair would be put in plats then a short bob but nothing made any difference :mad: oh I am glad those days are over I do have to check DGD though.

I remember the nurse coming round and checking everyone and praying I did not have them :rotfl: I never had them as a child and only got them later when DD did. I also remember having a picture leaflet sent home with me which made me scratch every time I looked at it :rotfl:

When I think of all the endangered species of animals in the world why oh why couldn't it be fleas and nits instead ????

Well I'm off for a hobble round the jumble this morning, now along with my bad back I am full of cold so I don't know how long I can survive the savage elbows

Just had a parcel delivered at 7am :eek::eek: now I have been up for hours so did not really matter but when you are waiting for something and have to go to work they NEVER deliver at 7am do they??? I think it is a conspiracy from the government to stop people having a lay in, get them up and in town shopping :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Have a lovely day ladies

PIC x

katieowl_2

I don't know what it is with some parents and kids? When I used to childmind, one of my kids, a boy, regularly was delivered wearing his sisters cast off...I don't mean dresses or skirts, but inappropriate styles/colours. Flowery trousers and a Pink top. They were not very well off (but as everyone says found cash for other 'stuff') and were dippy hippy types. I used to change him before we went to playgroup, as the other parents commented on it everytime! I hope I was sufficiently discrete to the boy...ooopsie, you've spilt some juice on that, lets find you a clean one before we go out!

I also remember turning up at the DD's school one 'first day of term' at big school, and seeing one poor girl wearing a sweatshirt that had washed from red to pale pink that stood out like a sore thumb from all the other girls in their new bright red tops...If I'd been her mum, I'd have moved heaven and earth to make sure that she'd looked the same as all the others on that one day? It's OK to keep a faded shirt as a 'spare', my DD's handed down bits of uniform to each other, but it's a top priority IMHO to make sure your kids don't visually stand out from the crowd. I know I have my own personal issue with this (long story, involving in part a home made crimplene blazer...:o) but because of that I KNOW THE DAMAGE!

Sadly I guess not everyone puts their kids as their top priority. Sorry, but I'd buy the uniform before I paid even the bills, let alone food, booze or fags.

Kate