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Lied on C.V. now they want evidence!

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  • looby75 wrote: »
    was that meant to be sarcastic? I was simply pointing out, as others have done, that it is very possible and plausible to go abroad and have nothing to prove that you have ever set foot outside the UK.

    The OP lied, ok that wasn't exactly smart, but I do wonder why the employers haven't considered the possibility that its not always possible to prove you have been travelling.

    It certainly isn't possible to prove it when it never happened.
    If you haven't got it - please don't flaunt it. TIA.
  • JoJox
    JoJox Posts: 31 Forumite
    I would say that u just traveled round the uk? lol better then nothing and u don't need a passport? Or maybe im missing the point here? lol.

    I feel for u tho cos nearly everyone lies on their CV I do hehe. And this sort of job lottery to get a job but my mate go caught out and they stopped her as they sed it was CV Fraud lol.

    Good luck and i hope it goes well for u. Try and look at Google u mite find sum advice? x
  • looby75
    looby75 Posts: 23,387 Forumite
    It certainly isn't possible to prove it when it never happened.
    as I said it wasn't exactly smart to lie about it, but even if he had been travelling it's still very possible that he wouldn't be able to prove it.
  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
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    I should think that if you have gone away you could get a written statement from a friend (someone on the list of signatories for a passport) who could confirm that you went to such-and-such a place on such-and-such a date etc etc. My friend's husband would fit the criteria and he would also know that we had gone away etc etc so he'd be happy to do that for us. But there is also no way on earth that he would lie for us.
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  • hello2007
    hello2007 Posts: 462 Forumite
    edited 16 October 2011 at 7:47PM
    NoNoDrama wrote: »
    I started a new job last xmas but left in May this year because it wasn't for me didn't get on with my manager etc I left and went onto JSA.

    Now I have a job offer but I didn't disclose this job on my C.V. I said I was
    'travelling' during the duration where I was at my previous job.

    They are now requiring a 5 year references and evidence I went travelling to cover that gap :(

    I didn't mention it because I have had a 'job-hopping' past which has been used against me in previous interviews.

    I've already said I've lost my passport but they are saying maybe I should have stamps or some evidence of my travels :(

    I really want the job and they seem really nice employers but I've fed them loads of rubbish about travelling and this lie is escalating out of control, they must smell b/s :(

    What should I do?

    Forget about the job as the any employer that wants a five year history going to do very indepth checks and will find out that you lied.

    I had a job that I hated but I made sure that I left on good terms so that I could put it on my CV. If you work your notice then there should be no reason why you should put it on your CV unless something else happpen that you are not saying.

    If it was a job of month or less then I understand why you want not put that on your cv but 5 months is very hard to hide.

    I also only put down the year on my CV not the months which hides any gaps and if I asked about it at interview then I expand on it and say how long I work there and what I did after I left.
  • thrifty_ms_bargainess
    thrifty_ms_bargainess Posts: 10 Forumite
    edited 16 October 2011 at 7:20PM
    This thread is hilarious because it's so long about this rather simple topic. Here is my general advice for anyone who has gaps in their CV's and trying to find a job.;)

    Firstly, you lied on your CV - OK, so some people do this and it's usually never a good idea. But it's done now and they're onto you.
    Secondly, they're asking for 5 years of references. This is very weird, what kind of job are you applying for? This level of checking is usually for jobs involving sensitive/confidential data or working with children/infants etc. Are you planning on working for the government or similar? If so...is that such a wise idea now that you've made a pretty suspicious looking start?

    If I were you, I would look for another job. They already know or suspect you have been lying. Even if you pull it off with the evidence, you bet they'll watch you like a hawk and no doubt have plans on getting rid of you once a better candidate comes along. The fact that they don't have much trust in you in the first place shows their level of commitment to you is already limited. So best bet is to say, no thank you to the job.

    Then, remove the lie from your CV. For all the gaps you had, you choose not to give this information by just placing the year at which you worked in. You could disregard this question with the comment 'I can't recall exactly but I do have references from each one should you need them'. Better look a bit forgetful than lie! (I assume you are able to get hold of these or have copies of them?)
    If the gaps were longer than a year, then say you were unable to find a job. But you can use this excuse to say that you have been learning or doing something to improve some sort of skill. What DID you do during the gaps? Assuming you didn't just party, sleep, eat and procrastinate all that time, I'm sure you must of done SOMETHING or worked on a project that you could use to display some knowledge or skill acquired. If you really have been doing nothing then you're a bit screwed.

    In general, if you've always been discriminated for the gaps, I would consider working for companies that would not consider it important. Some non-profit and temporary jobs usually only care about what you know and did recently. If you get a few of these under your belt, then your CV will start to look a bit better. Also, consider working for yourself if nothing comes up. Start up a website business or do some volunteering. This level of pro-activeness can only look amazing on your CV. Anyone showing initiative (esp during recession) is going to look appealing to employers. Or you can take a few months out to do a course at college to buff up your skills. Doing a TEFL for example is only 1 month long and allows you many opportunities abroad to work. Private and smaller schools abroad are much more forgiving about your gaps as they're more concerned about your qualifications and willingness to work hard. Perhaps refresh your CV with something like this first to show you mean business when you come back?

    Not only will you remove the hassle and stress of making up and forging evidence, you also will miss the evidently difficult time you may have once you get the job. Trust me, despite what one person says at an interview which can be regarded as positive, there is likely to be other people thinking the opposite. And your days could be numbered at that place! It will also feel like a big weight has been lifted - noone feels good about lying let alone forging evidence (which is also illegal and get you into all sorts of trouble for the next time you apply for a job as they can report you)!

    Basically, don't try and fight against the tide or lie your way into life. There is always more than one way you can do things/make money, more than one option you can consider and it's OK to go in a different direction.


    Best of luck!:cool:
  • dandelionclock30
    dandelionclock30 Posts: 3,235 Forumite
    edited 16 October 2011 at 7:38PM
    You say that you did a job but left because you didnt get on well with the manager, well in that case they would still provide you with a reference so there was no need to lie in the first place!.
    One of my friends works with children and she has about a 15 year gap on her C.V which was put down as living in France!!!. Nobody ever asked her for proof.But I was once at a party with her work mates and she said if anybody said anything about this then I hadnt to give the game away!
    If they really,really need to know where you were for this period then you are stuffed.
    I once lied my way into a job and every time the manager wanted a word about something I thought it was the lie being uncovered, but it never was.
    If its possible to be honest its better because then you dont have to worry!
  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    I'm with Poster #118. Six pages of opinion on whether it is possible to prove one hasn't been travelling when this isn't the point at all. The OP is required to prove what they were doing for those seven months in order to be given the job. So it matters not one jot how many MSE-ers can or can't prove they have been travelling - the OP needs to prove it (which they cannot because it was a lie) or they are screwed.
  • I was once doing some research on employment earlier this year and found out that apparently about 6 people per year actually go to prison for short sentences for lying on their C.V!
    The O.P may fall into this bracket!
  • SarEl
    SarEl Posts: 5,683 Forumite
    I was once doing some research on employment earlier this year and found out that apparently about 6 people per year actually go to prison for short sentences for lying on their C.V!
    The O.P may fall into this bracket!

    You have to actually get the job and you have to do something more than tell a lie! In such cases there are extenuating cisrcumstances - making up qulaificatioons, forgery and/or false refrences. Since the OP hasn't got the job and is unlikely to unless they can prove the lie they told is true (in which case, yes, if they follow some of the advice on here, they could go to jail!) then it is highly unlikley that they will be jailed. Unemployed, yes!
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