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  • Dinah93
    Dinah93 Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    The daftest thing is I just don't understand it - how can we owe money we never agreed to pay? If you bought a car for £5k you wouldn't expect them to call up a week later and say 'well I gave it a service before you bought it, you owe me for that, and I cleaned it, thats on top too'.
    Debt January 1st 2018 £96,999.81
    Debt September 20th 2022 £2991.68- 96.92% paid off
    Met NIM 23/06/2008
  • Birdie85
    Birdie85 Posts: 9,330 Forumite
    I don't understand either, if it's not in writing then where's the contract? You agreed to pay £x which you paid. Unless there's some magic builder's small print which means that any extras they add on are part of the contract?
    Overcome the notion that you must be ordinary. It robs you of the chance to be extraordinary!
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  • starnac
    starnac Posts: 5,946 Forumite
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    so you didn't agree to the extra work that he is now trying to charge you for?? that doesn't sound right. I thought it was a dispute over agreed works.
    Goals for February
    Declutter 2/50
    Money Made £0/£200
    Overpayments £0/£200
  • starnac
    starnac Posts: 5,946 Forumite
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    Birdie85 wrote: »
    If you give me his name I could even do the smacking... ;)

    we could all go round ;)
    Goals for February
    Declutter 2/50
    Money Made £0/£200
    Overpayments £0/£200
  • Dinah93
    Dinah93 Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    We agreed £1700 (ish) of works, he came back at the end and said it actually cost him around £4000 (I don't know the exact figures off the top of my head. So the disagreement is between the two figures. He says there was extra work as well as it costing more, we say it was part of the original contract.
    Debt January 1st 2018 £96,999.81
    Debt September 20th 2022 £2991.68- 96.92% paid off
    Met NIM 23/06/2008
  • starnac
    starnac Posts: 5,946 Forumite
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    If he came across extra work/costs that needed doing then he should have told you before he did them (unless of course it was a mjor H&S issue) for you to agree the extra costs. Blooming builders.
    Goals for February
    Declutter 2/50
    Money Made £0/£200
    Overpayments £0/£200
  • Dinah93
    Dinah93 Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    My thoughts exactly. You can't just assume people can afford it, if he'd told us we'd have said leave it where it is, and paid him up to that point.
    Debt January 1st 2018 £96,999.81
    Debt September 20th 2022 £2991.68- 96.92% paid off
    Met NIM 23/06/2008
  • starnac
    starnac Posts: 5,946 Forumite
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    Dinah93 wrote: »
    My thoughts exactly. You can't just assume people can afford it, if he'd told us we'd have said leave it where it is, and paid him up to that point.

    exactly. I'm quite cross on your behalf now I hope the judge sees sense :mad:
    Goals for February
    Declutter 2/50
    Money Made £0/£200
    Overpayments £0/£200
  • Surely that's his own bad business management if it cost more than he quoted! If I sell on ebay and the postage costs £5 and I only charged £2 postage and sold the item for 50p that's my lookout, you know? And if extra work was needed then yeah as Starnac says, he should have checked with you before doing it!
    Weightloss: 14.5/65lb
  • Birdie85
    Birdie85 Posts: 9,330 Forumite
    I thought it was standard to check that people are happy with extra costs before going ahead anyway? Whenever my parents had work done that was how it worked, get a quote and agree in principal, any extras would be run by them and agreed on as they came up. It just makes sense to do it that way surely? Like you say, had he told you of spiralling costs you'd have left it. :mad:
    Overcome the notion that you must be ordinary. It robs you of the chance to be extraordinary!
    Goal Weight 140lb Starting Weight: 160lb Current Weight 145lb
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